Ebay's Worst Offerings

[blakeyboy]

Well put.

However, the Chinese won't be listening to our views.

 

https://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/14695-ebays-worst-ai-coin-descriptions/

 

It's not going to get better....

 

[Peckris 2]

On 5/23/2024 at 8:46 PM, DaveG38 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't 'get' AI? I have a book on the subject, and although it is interesting, it struck me that all AI appears to do, is analyse data etc. and act on it, faster than man can. The book talks about finding patterns in data that we might not spot, and thus unexpected solutions to problems, but again it strikes me this is a matter of speed, rather than 'intelligence.' Given enough people and time it seems to me that anything AI can do we too could, albeit much slower. For me, this doesn't make AI intelligent, just fast.

Spot on. I read a book recently debunking the entire concept: "AI" either uses big data (e.g. the big chess and Go computers, which can't actually do anything else), or the large language model like Chat GPT, or has 'learning circuits' which have approximately 0.0000000001% the capacity of the human brain. On the other hand, human intelligence can involve deduction, reduction, recognition, inference, intuition, or maybe all at once.

To show the limitations of  AI, there's one that can in a photo recognise not only dogs from any other animal, but tell you what breed they are. HOWEVER, researchers changed a few pixels in the photo, which to human eyes were not detected, but the AI was fooled into 'identifying' the dog as something completely different, e.g. a hippo or even a sea creature.

[terrysoldpennies]

What a stunner, and with just a couple of surface marks .  😄 

George V half penny 1921 extraordinary tone | eBay

[Kipster]

Thats definintely an AI generated description. 😁

[Peckris 2]

4 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

What a stunner, and with just a couple of surface marks .  😄 

George V half penny 1921 extraordinary tone | eBay

Is that the extremely rare 'large L in HALF' variety?

[copper123]

my god that's a REAL minger

[secret santa]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204853278137?itmmeta=01J19R66GKQ4EAWG8C5J6RZVCG&hash=item2fb234f5b9:g:N4wAAOSwmehmetfM

What a bargain - less than £1000 per coin !!!!

[Paddy]

9 minutes ago, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204853278137?itmmeta=01J19R66GKQ4EAWG8C5J6RZVCG&hash=item2fb234f5b9:g:N4wAAOSwmehmetfM

What a bargain - less than £1000 per coin !!!!

No postage specified, otherwise I might have made him an offer of £1, just to see his reaction!

First time I have noticed the "Ebay automated Feedback". How long has this been going on? Positive but "This seller successfully completed an order" certainly counts as "Damning by faint praise!

[copper123]

13 hours ago, Paddy said:

No postage specified, otherwise I might have made him an offer of £1, just to see his reaction!

First time I have noticed the "Ebay automated Feedback". How long has this been going on? Positive but "This seller successfully completed an order" certainly counts as "Damning by faint praise!

That buyer would not be a full shilling methinks

[Kipster]

This listing made me chuckle for a couole of reasons; the price and description:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204851971097?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SCKi-ihOT4K&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[jelida]

I confess to being a bit wary of this penny auction - seller with zero feedback, no other items for sale and (inadequate) pics stolen from an LCA auction in 2014. I wouldn’t rush to bid without a few pertinent questions.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156281483806?itmmeta=01J1Q8K7PY07FTH265S3P1ND26&hash=item24631a321e:g:IPwAAOSwCANmfAfm&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4Bb%2FP90iZbtecuNLB3pCiX2CaiD%2BqKi0as%2BOzZGIu9bjcXMHKg%2FWFujkWyTqsZWs9D3FRS0B0f%2B0gGBPDOD%2BpuddoFkilcmGJGiV7%2FJCg52WY%2F0RXMd4dM7t8cuH8Upfb67jeBi9rwbBndjcj25fPsvrcfkAjT%2FHNrLJI2ZVXiMAqqYOJw0FtNkwHks6A0%2BgEQv88pNP4mulgjBy0R4ZxzEL4KYdvSAqNxG55UpSavSHk08ZxO%2BrC3xrNv6%2F40ipJEDJQ1iaefX5%2BL2qwZB4QcYCXj5OuIk2ihDfaC8kMrqe|tkp%3ABk9SR9b7zOiNZA
 

Jerry

[Paddy]

... not even with someone else's bargepole...

 

[Martinminerva]

1 hour ago, jelida said:

I confess to being a bit wary of this penny auction

Ah, but it does have the wonderful "grade of G 6" if you read the ebay AI generated blurb. Clearly AI is yet to understand Freeman die pairs, then... 😉 

[jelida]

Well, I have reported it on the basis of copyright infringement, using stolen pictures to create a probably fake listing. I think we know what the AI algorithm will make of that 🤡

Jerry

[copper123]

If a genuine coin and i cannot see that  it's vastly better grade at least near fine

[Kipster]

Copper you say...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186569805502?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=uWa-uYeVShi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[copper123]

On 7/16/2024 at 8:39 PM, Kipster said:

Copper you say...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186569805502?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=uWa-uYeVShi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Made under the rule of Elizabeth the second and not Victoria as well

[secret santa]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196599130251?itmmeta=01J6QRM9GEJXST213EAJN4DENJ&hash=item2dc638a88b:g:I-AAAOSwDuhm1JrG&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlxC92JWfA0aLxfCgwdx5BHgo8YGT06macKdD4XHzKwr1spDo9bE33jwUD1Sz3nT71jXeu3W8l6gaM6kk7z1ukZ7NU%2FwzMZ8ye88CHwI6eLua0YqJ9RatMvk9xbBiwWawBbD7A15Vz%2FeTfDaodIhEv9NiiP8l1O%2BzxisP%2FdGM3iK2ehJXIrjVl1qTq2Qxj4gJ3%2Flu1yLgika%2BW8WyA%2BsTy4wgSYV9%2F563wgQRrQPrNMtPzDXXs09Xl8dP0L2aBMzNRdMRR%2BzIsaT0RcDDVsR1Af|tkp%3ABk9SR6aY0fi1ZA

My article in September's Coin News provides a very timely warning about these coins !

[blakeyboy]

On 7/20/2024 at 12:16 PM, copper123 said:

Made under the rule of Elizabeth the second and not Victoria as well

What makes you think that?

[SilverAge3]

On 6/30/2024 at 12:17 PM, Kipster said:

This listing made me chuckle for a couole of reasons; the price and description:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204851971097?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SCKi-ihOT4K&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Oh yeah, I've bought off of him, only from his auctions. He does get some decent pieces from around the world he auctions.

[copper123]

4 hours ago, SilverAge3 said:

Oh yeah, I've bought off of him, only from his auctions. He does get some decent pieces from around the world he auctions.

I love the way its listed under Elizabeth II sixpence why can he not get the simplest thing right do you think I should email him and tell him he has it wrong or do you think I will get an insulting reply.

Answers on a postcard please.............

[SilverAge3]

38 minutes ago, copper123 said:

I love the way its listed under Elizabeth II sixpence why can he not get the simplest thing right do you think I should email him and tell him he has it wrong or do you think I will get an insulting reply.

Answers on a postcard please.............

He should be corrected. Granted he gets prickly and blocks people for all sorts of reasons. I won't buy raw coins off him. He's savvy enough to get his nice pieces graded, but lists cleaned pieces as BU or similar.  I know some people he blocked because he used photo trickery to hide the cleaning, and they mention it. Sadly it's the US market as a microcosm (he's French, by background, I hear, but very much operates like so many US sellers). Rare to find good, wholesome raw coins here. There are some, but also lots of problem coins in disguise. 

[PWA 1967]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266978285026?_nkw=penny+coin&itmmeta=01J6ZD0QHG63NVNZYBB3B2Y19B&hash=item3e292555e2:g:g5kAAOSwmH9m2K8F&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmOOXhDfJShZ9k0rmGvI5hL4%2BUm9bpbNymp%2BBQnv2NskT24AngdvxxhL%2FehlD9wnlssFVcPLWBd%2BBd8E65rryXVT5%2BTBetWyGOygdiIVK9Lwht469lB9D6HHXPMH0tTW8sekZSWX0dHKcQZOq6Ed8tsEB2SNl1Buwc7Uf14PTkgQuvk4hGL1wvstNZF0pmY1jRmcyIuvWxg6FG10Yxix09XNglgQSAF4NnGv%2BofJHQVATEgeI%2B%2BZY3wa7G7n%2BnST0dUCHxrxIBXdMUoEohG7PtK|tkp%3ABk9SR-r4gu23ZA

This seller wants kicking off eBay he annoys me that much i wish i could meet him to tell him 😀.

[Martinminerva]

Yes - yet another one of these (fortunately) crap copies from China.

[Peckris 2]

On 9/1/2024 at 10:49 PM, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196599130251?itmmeta=01J6QRM9GEJXST213EAJN4DENJ&hash=item2dc638a88b:g:I-AAAOSwDuhm1JrG&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlxC92JWfA0aLxfCgwdx5BHgo8YGT06macKdD4XHzKwr1spDo9bE33jwUD1Sz3nT71jXeu3W8l6gaM6kk7z1ukZ7NU%2FwzMZ8ye88CHwI6eLua0YqJ9RatMvk9xbBiwWawBbD7A15Vz%2FeTfDaodIhEv9NiiP8l1O%2BzxisP%2FdGM3iK2ehJXIrjVl1qTq2Qxj4gJ3%2Flu1yLgika%2BW8WyA%2BsTy4wgSYV9%2F563wgQRrQPrNMtPzDXXs09Xl8dP0L2aBMzNRdMRR%2BzIsaT0RcDDVsR1Af|tkp%3ABk9SR6aY0fi1ZA

My article in September's Coin News provides a very timely warning about these coins !

On the other hand, £1 is a fair price for a reasonable repro.