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  2. Bronze & Copper Collector

    Confirmation of Dies Please

    Bronze & Copper Collector replied to Kipster's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

    1862 A to RIGHT of Lighthouse Rocks are clearly there. 
  3. Bronze & Copper Collector

    Confirmation of Dies Please

    Bronze & Copper Collector replied to Kipster's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

    1862 A to LEFT of Lighthouse - Nearer to the Lighthouse  Better quality, faint, but the rocks are there. 
  4. Bronze & Copper Collector

    Confirmation of Dies Please

    Bronze & Copper Collector replied to Kipster's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

    1862 A to LEFT of Lighthouse - Nearer to Rim Poor quality, difficult to see, but I believe the rocks are there.
  5. Yesterday
  6. DaveG38
    I think we have the basis for a BNJ article developing on this subject.
  7. blakeyboy
    Incidentally, Algernon's wife was the first to get that nasty hospital bug, so they named it 'Mrs.A' after her....
  8. Peckris 2
    I should have been more specific - I meant currency issues only.
  9. Paulus
    York Mint halfcrown type 5
  10. copper123
    It is a coin and you can spend it though it would be silly to - really its a bullion coin though to me these coins are lovely pieces of art as well with their designs taking over from the old crown coin in about the year 2000 imo
  11. jelida
    This is very true; if for die longevity studies why use the same marker more than once? If such studies were ‘in house’, then just collect and count/weigh the output from the die in question before release into circulation. If for studies of coinage in circulation, how would you ever reliably track them with such a small output ? You would have to search through massive numbers of circulating pennies if the ratio of extant coins is a true reflection of mintage. Perhaps for dispersal studies, eg town x is given only ‘A’ halfpennies, and a month later is revisited to determine the proportion of marked 1862 halfpennies left? All very strange. But there must be a logical explanation. Jerry
  12. secret santa
    Rob You were too quick off the mark - I amended it immediately to remove your name.
  13. Rob
    Mr T said that, not me. My point revolves around the different A marked dies and the use of the die letter in general. I appreciate the die letters are used with reverses E(B), F(C) & G(A) which would imply they are comparing the 3 designs, but why would they be comparing them in 1862 when all three were used in various obv/rev die pairs the year before? It isn't as if they had no data to go on given the large output in 1861. Unless they suddenly ran into a problem with rev. G for whatever reason and felt the need to revert to an earlier die to see if something could be improved. Then to have at least 3 different A dies raises the question as to why more than one was needed.
  14. secret santa
    More interestingly, the 1862 with A to left of lighthouse has no rocks. Not true.
  15. Peckris 2
    there's a reason this site is called predecimal
  16. copper123
    recently the 2023 britannia in silver
  17. Bernie
    My "A" to the right has clover leaf left of the lighthouse.
  18. DaveG38
    Clearly, the A is for the original die sinker Algernon, but he died, so Archibald took over. He thought he was better and didn't fancy his work being associated with that scoundrel Algernon, so he put the die letter to the other side of the lighthouse. Then along came Augustine who put his A anywhere he felt like, and didn't care what size it was. Sounds logical to me. Simples!!
  19. Silverlocks
    1916 Florin EF or thereabouts with much of the original finish still intact.
  20. Last week
  21. Rob
    Assuming there's a pellet after REX, which isn't clear in the image but has the space for one, then it would be Withers 30a. This is the only Withers 30 not ending A. Other details above are correct.
  22. Coinery

    Edward (II?) Farthing identification please

    Coinery replied to JTerry3's topic in British Hammered

    So not these particular varieties but Edward II Class 10-11 - someone who has the book can give you the exact variety.
  23. Coinery

    Edward (II?) Farthing identification please

    Coinery replied to JTerry3's topic in British Hammered

  24. Rob
    Hmmm. The thing that stands out most here is the different positions of the two As to left of the lighthouse. The grotty one appears to be well circulated and presumably genuine as nobody would counterfeit a coin with a small A by the lighthouse when the majority of examples were bereft of any mark. The high grade one looks genuine too, so where does that leave the letters being a means of die identification? Back to the drawing board? The obvious inference is that not all As are equal, so with multiple dies extant, the letter must refer to something else - week, coining press, metal mix?
  25. Mr T
    And a little bit of an update to this - I haven't done a in-depth study of the G with rock/G with no rock from 1861 to 1873, but I have had a brief look. From 1863 to 1873, the pictures I have at hand all seem to show a rock (though a bit faint at times). More interestingly, the 1862 with A to left of lighthouse has no rocks while the 1862 with A to right of lighthouse has a rock, at least from the handful of images I've looked at (https://www.baldwin.co.uk/product/victoria-1837-1901-halfpenny-1862-die-letter-a-rrr/, https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=124&searchlot=555&searchtype=2, https://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=162&searchlot=2355&searchtype=2).
  26. Mr T

    USA proof sets

    Mr T replied to Sword's topic in Decimal Coins

    I don't really track US coins but yeah probably the high mintage would be part of it. I'd assume that collectors are very much divided (like here) into classic (1960s or earlier) and modern (alphabet sets/state quarters) and maybe these sets fall in between.
  27. Mr T

    2009 Mule 10 Pence With Lion Reverse of 2007

    Mr T replied to VickySilver's topic in Decimal Coins

    Looking forward to hearing what comes of it. It's good that the Royal Mint still do look into things like this - the Royal Australian Mint stopped years ago I believe.
  28. JTerry3 started following Edward (II?) Farthing identification please
  29. JTerry3
    Hi there all, I have just purchased this Edward Farthing & I was wondering if there are any (much more qualified) people on here that could possibly identify it's class and denote which Edward was it's issuer? It's been sold to me as an Edward II farthing. The edges have been clipped a bit so might not be easy to do this but can tell it's London minted at least. Many thanks. Kind regards, Joe
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