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  2. secret santa
    I think there may be something in this because the "fatter face" becomes more obvious with wear and so the queen may have noticed in 1892 that the modified obverse was becoming distinctly less flattering with wear (see example below) and requested a reversion to the original obverse R (Freeman 12).
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  4. Martinminerva
    Yes - certainly is. Yet another good find... you seem to have picked up quite a few rare varieties in all your lots. Well done!
  5. The Bee
    Hi, Apologies ... Was going through 1908 checking dates and found what I think might be ... Edward VII Obverse Gouby B (Freeman Obverse 1*) - tried to tie all the evidence together in the one image Best Regards
  6. TomGoodheart

    TICKET CENTRAL

    TomGoodheart replied to Rob's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

    Bear in mind that the handwriting can help identify a ticket, which can still be useful. Either to link a number of coins to a common owner, or if some provenance is known back to an earlier collection ..
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  11. The Bee
    Many thanks Peckris 2 ! I'll wait to see if anyone has any thoughts on micro varieties before I post any other date widths I posted under "Ticket Central" three coin envelopes, but didn't want to derail the ticket discussion. They include a sealed one from Spink. My guess is its a 1967 Penny or similar - I will try to open it without damaging the envelope around Christmas And Copper123 mentioned the high cost/ poor return of the the 1875 Farthing in the plain brown envelope, so I thought I'd share an image of the expensive 1875 no H Farthing, along with the holed Jack of Cumberland to Hanover Token from the Baldwin's envelope (there were also a couple of Toy coins and fractional Farthings in the same accumulation) Also attached (from the same accumulation) 1860 Farthing BRIII REG (obviously not , but the top of the T has been very weakly struck only a trace to the left) and and 1861 (much less interesting) Farthing where there has been a break of some kind on the A in Victoria, Very Best Regards
  12. Sword
    Are you tempted to find out what's in the sealed envelope? But an envelope with mystery content could be a lot more interesting if it turns out to be a low grade penny inside. On reflection, I would probably leave it alone myself to maintain the suspense.
  13. copper123

    TICKET CENTRAL

    copper123 replied to Rob's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

    That 1875 no H farthing is probably only worth about £8 -£12 depending on the variety a really poor return on cash over probably the last 55 years
  14. The Bee
    Apologies if this is the wrong place to. I have been occasionally finding damaged tickets but hadn't realised that they might be useful in tracing which collections / auctions coins have been in. Sadly in the absence of tickets I think all I have which are remotely related are: a "modern" sealed Spink envelope (probably contains a penny); a Baldwin's envelope with a holed "to Hanover" token; and a I what might be a pre decimal envelope with an 187 Farthing in it. If I find any tickets that have a number / surname on I will share them
  15. Mr T
    I saw one of the Gouby books on ebay a while ago - keep your eyes peeled.
  16. Mr T
    Yeah, as much as I'd like a one-stop book that covers it all, specialist books win out every time. Unfortunately, there are few (let alone in print) specialist books on many British Commonwealth countries.
  17. Peckris 2
    Basically, you've got one narrow date, and the rest are wide dates. I'll leave it to others to see if there are micro varieties among the latter.
  18. The Bee
    Hi I have just finished pulling together my 1879 Pennies to compare date widths - all circulated coins . Apologies for any duplication. Top left is the narrow 1879 The very worn penny at the bottom of the picture may just be a more worn version of some of one of the others (I have found 3 examples in identical condition) Great to get your thoughts - I'm sure I'm missing a few ! Best Regards
  19. ozjohn

    Mint Damage ?

    ozjohn replied to ozjohn's topic in TPG Discussions

    Another coin with similar damage. on the king's forehead. From what I have noticed the marks come in 3s approximately in line.
  20. secret santa
    I have now changed this obverse from a "sub-variety" of Obverse R (Freeman 12) to an Unrecorded Obverse R* on the varieties website.
  21. VickySilver
    I concur, this is a basic and gives a general heading or steerage. Unfortunately, as Mr. T I am nearly certain would agree, most knowledge of colonial comes from experience and following the market, auctions, etc.
  22. Peckris 2
    Regal disapproval?
  23. Peckris 2
    only one of those dated 1983 would be worth good money (that was the year nearly all 2p's were 'TWO PENCE')
  24. secret santa
    Interestingly, and obviously when you think about it, the versions of 1889 F127 with the missing serifs are the normal obverse R.
  25. Martinminerva
    This is the "normal" date width of 13.5 beads (to tip of the 2) and so is Gouby BP1892Aa as are all my fat face/double chin ones, but Jerry above confirms he has a 14 bead fat face one and a 13.5 bead normal face one, so there is indeed crossover in date widths and reverse sub-types for the micro-variety completist... Hooray! I quite like the fat face nomenclature, actually - does what it says on the tin!!
  26. jelida
    My 1892 ‘fat face’ obverse is the 14 tooth date width, and the 13.5 tooth date is the ‘normal’ obverse. Though let’s hope this particular nomenclature doesn’t catch on! Jerry
  27. secret santa
    As she was with the initial unadopted beaded obverse A and B on the pennies.
  28. Paddy
    My 1892 is the fatter face version I think. I struggle with the date width, but I think this is the wider date?
  29. copper123

    Mint Damage ?

    copper123 replied to ozjohn's topic in TPG Discussions

    pity its a nice coin but for that
  30. Martinminerva
    I too have both sub-types of face/chin for 1892 - a very interesting spot, Bee - jolly well done on raising a hitherto unnoticed variety!! Not that my sample is huge, but all my fat face/double chin ones are Gouby BP1892Aa with the 13.5 beads date width, and the slimmer face ones are Gouby BP1892Ab with 14 beads date (and the BP1892B only-recorded-on Gouby website 13 bead narrow date see: http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/bp_1892_varieties.htm (wonder why he never included this last one in his book??)) All good fun!! Wonder if there are more crossover dates or indeed date widths?
  31. The Bee
    I wonder, could it be the least flattering coin portrait of any GB monarch ! "Everyone likes flattery; and when you come to Royalty you should lay it on with a trowel." Benjamin Disraeli
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