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[Paddy]

36 minutes ago, The Bee said:

Many thanks Paddy - it's great to know what it is !

Sounds like I will need to try to acquire a copy of Wither's list of Evasions along with literature (with decent pictures !) on contemporary counterfeits, as I'm likely to run into other examples (based on my so far 5 and a bit months of collecting). I did wonder if it appeared in  "A Journey through the Monkalokian rain forests in search of the Spiney Fubbaduck. (Evasions)" which I believe also covers evasion coins.

Best Regards

 

That sounds like a fascinating book!

The Withers list of evasions is part of "The Token Book" (volume 1) by Paul and Bente R Withers published by Galata in 2010. When I last went looking for a copy of this for a friend I found it difficult and expensive to buy - I hope you have better luck.

The book also covers 17th, 18th and early 19th century tokens very well - not completely comprehensive but enough to cover most needs.

 

[will1976]

The Token Book volume one had a re print in 2022 and is available on the Galata website. Priced £65

[The Bee]

Many thanks for the advice, I've ordered a copy of the Token Book !

Very Best Regards

Richard

[Paddy]

Wow! That has hiked a bit! It was £25 when it came out in 2010, but second hand prices quickly jumped to around the £65 mark, so I guess they felt there was the demand to justify it.

[will1976]

The Token book 3 is double that, I've been toying with buying it but I don't think the amount I'd use it would justify the cost 

[Paddy]

Took me a while to find more info on Book 3 - Tickets and Passes. A very niche topic and not for me I think. 

I'm sure I would find it interesting, and I suspect I have had a few goodies through my hands in the past, which I would enjoy looking up, but I am not collecting or buying in that area now.

I have Book 2 - Unofficial Farthings - and have rarely used it.

PS. By the way, if anyone is looking for a cheap copy of Book 1, there is one coming up at auction at Whitton & Laing in Exeter on Friday.

 

Edited September 21, 2024 by Paddy
Added PS

[secret santa]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146054935124?itmmeta=01J8NK13H2Q4NBQWMF3851N6DP&hash=item22018d7254:g:9cUAAOSwhApm9IB9&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmw85hwP%2B2o%2BgS5J2Hssq%2FShGwvLODe98Oq96G3i1Iz9JYDf4JZgJP6EsQoYwkO2KbG6ma2LJtqjmhfpK6V7jDi4Hmw4HxlkWkzdbkkTR3JcmN1SvLOsPdcnU9wX1fz3ts4gzbWciDsoLIjkFUeqMDnTDHO0fg2nICiNh7jiESxUSWdP4gwnXeFB%2F3JtOWHKgkT1YNbaE1--EHrekv5M1Vu6M476DpbpexYYvFrq09hFr4wbs8Kz%2BmVR9ysHVPJw%2FJC4QFwNcwUlWImcVazKzia|tkp%3ABk9SR8y4hLPFZA

I have messaged the vendor saying that she has seriously undervalued this coin. A penny dated 1985 but bearing the image of Queen Victoria must be priceless.

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

6 hours ago, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146054935124?itmmeta=01J8NK13H2Q4NBQWMF3851N6DP&hash=item22018d7254:g:9cUAAOSwhApm9IB9&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmw85hwP%2B2o%2BgS5J2Hssq%2FShGwvLODe98Oq96G3i1Iz9JYDf4JZgJP6EsQoYwkO2KbG6ma2LJtqjmhfpK6V7jDi4Hmw4HxlkWkzdbkkTR3JcmN1SvLOsPdcnU9wX1fz3ts4gzbWciDsoLIjkFUeqMDnTDHO0fg2nICiNh7jiESxUSWdP4gwnXeFB%2F3JtOWHKgkT1YNbaE1--EHrekv5M1Vu6M476DpbpexYYvFrq09hFr4wbs8Kz%2BmVR9ysHVPJw%2FJC4QFwNcwUlWImcVazKzia|tkp%3ABk9SR8y4hLPFZA

I have messaged the vendor saying that she has seriously undervalued this coin. A penny dated 1985 but bearing the image of Queen Victoria must be priceless.

Possibly a modern commemorative???

LOL!!

[SilverAge3]

7 hours ago, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146054935124?itmmeta=01J8NK13H2Q4NBQWMF3851N6DP&hash=item22018d7254:g:9cUAAOSwhApm9IB9&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmw85hwP%2B2o%2BgS5J2Hssq%2FShGwvLODe98Oq96G3i1Iz9JYDf4JZgJP6EsQoYwkO2KbG6ma2LJtqjmhfpK6V7jDi4Hmw4HxlkWkzdbkkTR3JcmN1SvLOsPdcnU9wX1fz3ts4gzbWciDsoLIjkFUeqMDnTDHO0fg2nICiNh7jiESxUSWdP4gwnXeFB%2F3JtOWHKgkT1YNbaE1--EHrekv5M1Vu6M476DpbpexYYvFrq09hFr4wbs8Kz%2BmVR9ysHVPJw%2FJC4QFwNcwUlWImcVazKzia|tkp%3ABk9SR8y4hLPFZA

I have messaged the vendor saying that she has seriously undervalued this coin. A penny dated 1985 but bearing the image of Queen Victoria must be priceless.

So much wrong here besides 1985 Vic. The screenshots from a different eBay listing, not even cropped. The price. The AI description.

[secret santa]

Yet another seller trying it on.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267031963314?itmmeta=01JAE84Q7N90TDWNDGG4FNXX4A&hash=item3e2c5866b2:g:C~cAAOSwsExnESii&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKn0kJg003yHYLOxjTi%2F9VJ3XWF4rXPP7M7umpLAzY4NYWkkDPjUBV4B4oim95aa48o05mOInXxyS7KbgNzEgVmxIYLccmqN5rJbdLBIR3s3Pg19RZTDnc99%2FuspL%2BW6ISDSJO4CUJQXnD%2BvG5TAG3CFwzFbVGEgb0RM8Kx0mm%2B2K3A%2FgBlnSqQBSHGl8Rho7kqsk8%2F32TGdPzHKZqnHqTMu2cnoukWaC0q69WoQZ2bQVvC7aKK2AFmDye6tDEyTsY2HxhlqqMtWqGlVCuSndgoR|tkp%3ABk9SR_jzksjTZA

[Coinery]

10 minutes ago, secret santa said:

Yet another seller trying it on.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267031963314?itmmeta=01JAE84Q7N90TDWNDGG4FNXX4A&hash=item3e2c5866b2:g:C~cAAOSwsExnESii&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKn0kJg003yHYLOxjTi%2F9VJ3XWF4rXPP7M7umpLAzY4NYWkkDPjUBV4B4oim95aa48o05mOInXxyS7KbgNzEgVmxIYLccmqN5rJbdLBIR3s3Pg19RZTDnc99%2FuspL%2BW6ISDSJO4CUJQXnD%2BvG5TAG3CFwzFbVGEgb0RM8Kx0mm%2B2K3A%2FgBlnSqQBSHGl8Rho7kqsk8%2F32TGdPzHKZqnHqTMu2cnoukWaC0q69WoQZ2bQVvC7aKK2AFmDye6tDEyTsY2HxhlqqMtWqGlVCuSndgoR|tkp%3ABk9SR_jzksjTZA

Amazing that they’d gamble an 1800+ positive feedback on something like this? Crazy!

[secret santa]

39 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Amazing that they’d gamble an 1800+ positive feedback on something like this? Crazy!

Yes, especially as I messaged him a few days ago to tell him it's a modern replica.

[Peckris 2]

On 10/18/2024 at 5:46 PM, secret santa said:

Yes, especially as I messaged him a few days ago to tell him it's a modern replica.

I just did too.

[Sword]

The listing has now been withdrawn.

[Martinminerva]

...And here we go again: another of those "worn" Viccy copper copies. Funny that they're usually the rare dates...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/326313613734?itmmeta=01JAZ85WZ4491ZM08EH78RP8M2&hash=item4bf9ce99a6:g:onkAAOSwI79nGWh~&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwMxmj%2BiGvOveHXEBClPb29jJnRq4Vk51tHda%2BgRm49lyBxMS8eGUga7H8pd7mxTpU6TGw27gr1WtEisR0vhKGRsc58y36GGUyPLYP0J0FhEGeWjeWu9Q1jpufR7ok%2F1RXtXoRw0ApEDd8MBW9LocT%2FmrHAW%2Fx4EpYy%2FvfL2ohKQ%2BvNYS7NA7ZxfJEk%2BGJ%2FYg1HUpRZNuDPGzuEHTinPjzZ4puWle0bu%2FY3h7V%2BOEDZ280VluG6Y6ctbNL52KuRN3Qw%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9TPl-jXZA

[terrysoldpennies]

Why don't E.bay stop this kind of thing.   !! Obviously a fake !!   One Penny Coin | eBay    Mind you I can't see anybody being mug enough to buy it ?

[secret santa]

Hang on - isn't this one of the Lavrillier patterns ?

[secret santa]

I've just checked and it appears that they have taken the photos either from my website or the Royal Mint Museum as it's clearly the same coin !

https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1933-f786-pattern/

[DaveG38]

Certainly, this purports to be one of the Lavrillier coins. What I don't get is why anybody would try and 'sell' this coin on ebay, even at the price of £86k. Given that ebay now withholds payments until the transaction is complete, they are not going to release this amount to the seller, just like that. Once it becomes clear that this is a con, it will be cancelled and the seller has failed. All I can think is that the seller, with an amazing feedback of 3, has no idea that they don't get their money immediately.

[terrysoldpennies]

And with top security  postage of £1.65 😂

[Coinery]

7 hours ago, secret santa said:

I've just checked and it appears that they have taken the photos either from my website or the Royal Mint Museum as it's clearly the same coin !

https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1933-f786-pattern/

I was just SO tempted to drop a one-liner here, it’s begging for the obvious, but I thought better of it!  

[Sword]

9 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Why don't E.bay stop this kind of thing.   !! Obviously a fake !!   One Penny Coin | eBay    Mind you I can't see anybody being mug enough to buy it ?

Looks it eBay might have done something as the page is now "missing" rather than listing ended by seller.

[Ukstu]

On 9/27/2024 at 9:59 AM, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146054935124?itmmeta=01J8NK13H2Q4NBQWMF3851N6DP&hash=item22018d7254:g:9cUAAOSwhApm9IB9&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmw85hwP%2B2o%2BgS5J2Hssq%2FShGwvLODe98Oq96G3i1Iz9JYDf4JZgJP6EsQoYwkO2KbG6ma2LJtqjmhfpK6V7jDi4Hmw4HxlkWkzdbkkTR3JcmN1SvLOsPdcnU9wX1fz3ts4gzbWciDsoLIjkFUeqMDnTDHO0fg2nICiNh7jiESxUSWdP4gwnXeFB%2F3JtOWHKgkT1YNbaE1--EHrekv5M1Vu6M476DpbpexYYvFrq09hFr4wbs8Kz%2BmVR9ysHVPJw%2FJC4QFwNcwUlWImcVazKzia|tkp%3ABk9SR8y4hLPFZA

I have messaged the vendor saying that she has seriously undervalued this coin. A penny dated 1985 but bearing the image of Queen Victoria must be priceless.

That has to be a troll post lol. Classic.

[secret santa]

22 hours ago, Coinery said:

I was just SO tempted to drop a one-liner here, it’s begging for the obvious, but I thought better of it!

Go on, indulge yourself.

[Nonmortuus]

22 hours ago, Sword said:

Looks it eBay might have done something as the page is now "missing" rather than listing ended by seller.

I sent them a message reporting it, hopefully others did to ,and ebay emailed me last night saying it had been pulled and action was been taking against the seller.