Ebay's Worst Offerings

[Rob]

2 hours ago, jelida said:

Well this is a masterpiece of bullshit to misrepresent a common polished coin as desirable!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266817921795?itmmeta=01HY5RM384CB3M8QYD8TFJ8EZC&hash=item3e1f966303:g:P9QAAOSwBp9mSGzh&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4CND%2BLOUuRITYzdUUVsKmNc8RNgC4PXfp3v24lsBSRZPvhF%2FlAz9v3Hx8dlAY3P%2FXPItNKItc0IHJMuAWgA3rFMU%2Bj0Egb2wTDf9qrj5Jd9yi20pR6JGgXgrbj2UIP2ILr8jbRqFzWbi1wQN3SPga16Npbq61gUrWBFe6OUo%2F0mPfezB8k3PIj3wqumm8BA370XDjxudlz1CXQU4Wxmqir%2Bs0vV3Xm4A3WX4LlKaz0EcyhsmGLcee2wPFaeRHq9w3Qy6GlTZ39CpnMjZNAlVJ86g9u%2FaAfQZOJdqAQu9oKCe|tkp%3ABk9SR6S00LjxYw

Jerry

 

 

[Martinminerva]

That's AI for you, as demonstrated by ebay's push to allow "intelligence" to create the listing blurb on behalf of a seller.  Over the last few months, the amount of bollocks that is being said in coin listings (and no doubt other categories too) beggars belief.

Thank god some of us on here still have human intelligence, but heaven help the world for the future... 😩

 

[copper123]

Maybe the world will be a better place in the future with Ai Bots putting on ebay listings without the help of humans .

Well they could hardly do worse , could they?

[Peckris 2]

22 hours ago, copper123 said:

Maybe the world will be a better place in the future with Ai Bots putting on ebay listings without the help of humans .

Well they could hardly do worse , could they?

I guess Chat GPT would autocorrect 'marleybob' to 'Bob Marley' (Same old 1933 penny though...)

Edited May 23, 2024 by Peckris 2

[DaveG38]

Am I the only one who doesn't 'get' AI? I have a book on the subject, and although it is interesting, it struck me that all AI appears to do, is analyse data etc. and act on it, faster than man can. The book talks about finding patterns in data that we might not spot, and thus unexpected solutions to problems, but again it strikes me this is a matter of speed, rather than 'intelligence.' Given enough people and time it seems to me that anything AI can do we too could, albeit much slower. For me, this doesn't make AI intelligent, just fast. 

The other aspect I don't understand is the issue of AI 'learning' based on 'reading' existing documentation, so that it can absorb huge amounts of information and can use this in any tasks it is undertaking. How does it sort the wheat from the chaff? How does it work out how the rantings of Donald Trump compare to the utterings of any other US president, or how it can differentiate the absolute rubbish put out by some people online, compared to those who actually have a sensible argument? In short, how does it sort the truth from the lies? Plus, of course, how does it learn morality, when in literature there are fine lines which are often blurred. In short, how can we ensure that AI doesn't decide that the problems of the world are caused by man, and decides to do away with us? After all, this would likely solve the problem of climate change, which it will have learned is a major issue at the moment!!

[blakeyboy]

Well put.

However, the Chinese won't be listening to our views.

 

https://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/14695-ebays-worst-ai-coin-descriptions/

 

It's not going to get better....

 

[Peckris 2]

On 5/23/2024 at 8:46 PM, DaveG38 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't 'get' AI? I have a book on the subject, and although it is interesting, it struck me that all AI appears to do, is analyse data etc. and act on it, faster than man can. The book talks about finding patterns in data that we might not spot, and thus unexpected solutions to problems, but again it strikes me this is a matter of speed, rather than 'intelligence.' Given enough people and time it seems to me that anything AI can do we too could, albeit much slower. For me, this doesn't make AI intelligent, just fast.

Spot on. I read a book recently debunking the entire concept: "AI" either uses big data (e.g. the big chess and Go computers, which can't actually do anything else), or the large language model like Chat GPT, or has 'learning circuits' which have approximately 0.0000000001% the capacity of the human brain. On the other hand, human intelligence can involve deduction, reduction, recognition, inference, intuition, or maybe all at once.

To show the limitations of  AI, there's one that can in a photo recognise not only dogs from any other animal, but tell you what breed they are. HOWEVER, researchers changed a few pixels in the photo, which to human eyes were not detected, but the AI was fooled into 'identifying' the dog as something completely different, e.g. a hippo or even a sea creature.

[terrysoldpennies]

What a stunner, and with just a couple of surface marks .  😄 

George V half penny 1921 extraordinary tone | eBay

[Kipster]

Thats definintely an AI generated description. 😁

[Peckris 2]

4 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

What a stunner, and with just a couple of surface marks .  😄 

George V half penny 1921 extraordinary tone | eBay

Is that the extremely rare 'large L in HALF' variety?

[copper123]

my god that's a REAL minger

[secret santa]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204853278137?itmmeta=01J19R66GKQ4EAWG8C5J6RZVCG&hash=item2fb234f5b9:g:N4wAAOSwmehmetfM

What a bargain - less than £1000 per coin !!!!

[Paddy]

9 minutes ago, secret santa said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204853278137?itmmeta=01J19R66GKQ4EAWG8C5J6RZVCG&hash=item2fb234f5b9:g:N4wAAOSwmehmetfM

What a bargain - less than £1000 per coin !!!!

No postage specified, otherwise I might have made him an offer of £1, just to see his reaction!

First time I have noticed the "Ebay automated Feedback". How long has this been going on? Positive but "This seller successfully completed an order" certainly counts as "Damning by faint praise!

[copper123]

13 hours ago, Paddy said:

No postage specified, otherwise I might have made him an offer of £1, just to see his reaction!

First time I have noticed the "Ebay automated Feedback". How long has this been going on? Positive but "This seller successfully completed an order" certainly counts as "Damning by faint praise!

That buyer would not be a full shilling methinks

[Kipster]

This listing made me chuckle for a couole of reasons; the price and description:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204851971097?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SCKi-ihOT4K&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[jelida]

I confess to being a bit wary of this penny auction - seller with zero feedback, no other items for sale and (inadequate) pics stolen from an LCA auction in 2014. I wouldn’t rush to bid without a few pertinent questions.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156281483806?itmmeta=01J1Q8K7PY07FTH265S3P1ND26&hash=item24631a321e:g:IPwAAOSwCANmfAfm&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4Bb%2FP90iZbtecuNLB3pCiX2CaiD%2BqKi0as%2BOzZGIu9bjcXMHKg%2FWFujkWyTqsZWs9D3FRS0B0f%2B0gGBPDOD%2BpuddoFkilcmGJGiV7%2FJCg52WY%2F0RXMd4dM7t8cuH8Upfb67jeBi9rwbBndjcj25fPsvrcfkAjT%2FHNrLJI2ZVXiMAqqYOJw0FtNkwHks6A0%2BgEQv88pNP4mulgjBy0R4ZxzEL4KYdvSAqNxG55UpSavSHk08ZxO%2BrC3xrNv6%2F40ipJEDJQ1iaefX5%2BL2qwZB4QcYCXj5OuIk2ihDfaC8kMrqe|tkp%3ABk9SR9b7zOiNZA
 

Jerry

[Paddy]

... not even with someone else's bargepole...

 

[Martinminerva]

1 hour ago, jelida said:

I confess to being a bit wary of this penny auction

Ah, but it does have the wonderful "grade of G 6" if you read the ebay AI generated blurb. Clearly AI is yet to understand Freeman die pairs, then... 😉 

[jelida]

Well, I have reported it on the basis of copyright infringement, using stolen pictures to create a probably fake listing. I think we know what the AI algorithm will make of that 🤡

Jerry

[copper123]

If a genuine coin and i cannot see that  it's vastly better grade at least near fine

[Kipster]

Copper you say...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186569805502?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=uWa-uYeVShi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[copper123]

On 7/16/2024 at 8:39 PM, Kipster said:

Copper you say...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186569805502?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=uWa-uYeVShi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Made under the rule of Elizabeth the second and not Victoria as well

[secret santa]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196599130251?itmmeta=01J6QRM9GEJXST213EAJN4DENJ&hash=item2dc638a88b:g:I-AAAOSwDuhm1JrG&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlxC92JWfA0aLxfCgwdx5BHgo8YGT06macKdD4XHzKwr1spDo9bE33jwUD1Sz3nT71jXeu3W8l6gaM6kk7z1ukZ7NU%2FwzMZ8ye88CHwI6eLua0YqJ9RatMvk9xbBiwWawBbD7A15Vz%2FeTfDaodIhEv9NiiP8l1O%2BzxisP%2FdGM3iK2ehJXIrjVl1qTq2Qxj4gJ3%2Flu1yLgika%2BW8WyA%2BsTy4wgSYV9%2F563wgQRrQPrNMtPzDXXs09Xl8dP0L2aBMzNRdMRR%2BzIsaT0RcDDVsR1Af|tkp%3ABk9SR6aY0fi1ZA

My article in September's Coin News provides a very timely warning about these coins !

[blakeyboy]

On 7/20/2024 at 12:16 PM, copper123 said:

Made under the rule of Elizabeth the second and not Victoria as well

What makes you think that?

[SilverAge3]

On 6/30/2024 at 12:17 PM, Kipster said:

This listing made me chuckle for a couole of reasons; the price and description:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204851971097?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SCKi-ihOT4K&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=skmjbKlTSK-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Oh yeah, I've bought off of him, only from his auctions. He does get some decent pieces from around the world he auctions.