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Hi. I have had an identification for this coin suggesting the mint letters are GRA for Cambridge. Thanks to all for looking.

This made me smile that, in the title, the seller drew attention to the fact it was holed, as if to avoid its other more noteworthy issues! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186237807944?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=csjIN_gZTVq&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=qduwzHkQTWC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Ah, well, who needs Freeman when you have Richard’s headsntails14 site! It’s funny though, but my badly wired brain always reads it Heads n Snails!

A few of us contributed appendices covering varieties identified after the 1985 version, including those recorded by Gouby.

I've got the 1985 version (as has everyone else). Is there much new stuff in the new edition? As an aside, I'm impressed by Freeman's assertion in his intro that he had a collection of 60,000 Victorian pennies (acquired "randomly from circulation"). He would have collected these in the 1950's to early 60's presumably, and by then the 19th century Victorian pennies would only have made up a small proportion of circulating pennies with most remaining in very low grade. So say there were 10% Victorians left in circulation at that time, Freeman would have had to sift through 600K different pennies to weed out 60K Victorian ones. So if he collected his pennies actively over a period of 15 years "from circulation" prior to his book coming out (printed mid-60's), that means he would have had to obtain 110 pennies EVERY DAY of those 15 years, each time a fresh batch, to sift out on average the 11 Victorian ones. Perhaps a more likely scenario was that he was able to buy large accumulations of pennies destined for scrap from the bank, but he would still have to get 600 thousand to sift through for his 10% Victorians, and give back the remainder to the bank.That's assuming the proportion in circulation by then was even as much as 10%. Most would presumably have been melted down or discarded due to wear and age before the massive 20th century issues.

Unfortunately I think that the best coins are being bought up by the very rich, purely as investments along with art and classic cars, which are also sky rocketing. I collect mainly Pennies and over the last few years it seems to me that most of the rare types are rarely come onto the market. 😞

All the info I have is in the thread in the Wanted section of this forum. I can't seem to post a link to it, but if you go into Wanted it is on the first page - Bronze Coinage (2016).

Yes - others have commented on the same problem. I guess the fairly limited print run sold out quickly to people who really wanted a copy! It may also be relevant that the pages came loose fairly easily from the spine on this issue. Certainly mine has, and I think I saw other similar comments. As a result, any copies that fall into the hands of book dealers would probably not be listed as they are damaged. Pulped sadly!

Indeed - the first pennies were 1797 cartwheels - nothing before or after until 1806.

Not EBay, but surely this auction is a load of total bollox…..😁 https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=7558&lot=499 Jerry

1826 Penny also just back from NGC MS65BN ,really nice in hand and again with a lovely tone.

One i have just got back from NGC MS65BN ,lovely tone for a scarce year in high grade.