Ebay's Worst Offerings

[DrLarry]

On 12/9/2023 at 11:26 AM, Paddy said:

Definitely not the mule and I have messaged him to that effect.

If he can't see that the border on the reverse is toothed, not beaded, he can check on the rocks to the left of the lighthouse. On the beaded reverse, there are 3 distinct rocks, whereas on the toothed there is a single large rock.

 

Thank you that's helpful I'm sure 

[Peckris 2]

On 12/9/2023 at 10:52 AM, DrLarry said:

Cannot think where best to get the opinion of you experts but please let me know your thoughts.   I have tried to help the seller https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176062629565?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=OgrcZPeFTfi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=h5XdnfNFTNi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Sadly he is using yet  questionable evidence of another error from PGCS .  Drop him a message if you can be bothered .  Thank you 

have messaged him.

[jelida]

On 12/10/2023 at 12:40 PM, DrLarry said:

Thank you that's helpful I'm sure 

I had messaged him as well, and have just received a nice reply from ‘Tim’ stating that he now agrees that the coin is not a mule and will alter the description. Appears that he based his id on the mis-described Heritage coin.

Jerry

[Paddy]

Yes, I have just had a similar message from Tim. I have replied thanking him for taking the comments in good heart and reacting accordingly.

 

[Martinminerva]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235337607041?hash=item36cb36e781:g:NwcAAOSwXdZldX8~&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwFSfkSwmQd1lxgOL8dW6twnMTiiW%2FSFQKPD5OhTwr5A1IXBmumkWEr5iDSUmW83wSTsJlm%2BnEfhJI6nLgOXwtfhmNSwkzyD41cmmXT4fBimwAKkTvycGktFTrp3P7NyC4kAekqnvZ3v2AeZhVbLmwD4lR68Zhz4MPLl%2BU3FRAl1O997cTP18WQ2lAEA8A22Uq9dLptqp8YI8zXBaLhNa7YMmu7wC9LxmOrnrKOU394D%2BlThKBPqTIXWlZIQAlKmfYg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR6bN7p-LYw

...because of course Victoria was famously Queen of Australia in 1931 😉

Edited December 11, 2023 by Martinminerva

[blakeyboy]

4 hours ago, Paddy said:

Yes, I have just had a similar message from Tim. I have replied thanking him for taking the comments in good heart and reacting accordingly.

 

Same here.  

Makes a pleasant change!!

[Peckris 2]

On 12/11/2023 at 3:36 PM, jelida said:

I had messaged him as well, and have just received a nice reply from ‘Tim’ stating that he now agrees that the coin is not a mule and will alter the description. Appears that he based his id on the mis-described Heritage coin.

Jerry

me too

[copper123]

On 11/29/2023 at 1:17 PM, Iannich48 said:

Let's face it, I would not believe it if a genuine 1933 penny came up for sale on eBay. Just so rare, surely auction would be best?

Ebay is an auction - but not very well policed

[DrLarry]

thank you 

for helping him out The issue seemed to be that the Grading company had limited capacity to work out a tooth from a bead .  But once the gospel is set in plastic iti s hard to speak other than their  written word...  the worst one I had was a beautiful 1837 penny which was slabbed in fact a half penny.....  you just can't get the staff....

 

Merry Christmas all  

[Iannich48]

24 minutes ago, DrLarry said:

thank you 

for helping him out The issue seemed to be that the Grading company had limited capacity to work out a tooth from a bead .  But once the gospel is set in plastic iti s hard to speak other than their  written word...  the worst one I had was a beautiful 1837 penny which was slabbed in fact a half penny.....  you just can't get the staff....

 

Merry Christmas all  

That is a shocker.

[Rob]

40 minutes ago, DrLarry said:

 the worst one I had was a beautiful 1837 penny which was slabbed in fact a half penny.....  you just can't get the staff....

At that point you keep your mouth shut and bid strong.

They do have staff - just the wrong sort.

[Coinery]

I personally stopped wasting my time messaging eBay a long, long, time ago! I treat it now for what it is, its own little mini government, and all the flaws that come with being that!

Edited December 20, 2023 by Coinery

[jelida]

Not EBay, but surely this auction is a load of total bollox…..😁

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=7558&lot=499

Jerry

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

5 minutes ago, jelida said:

Not EBay, but surely this auction is a load of total bollox…..😁

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=7558&lot=499

Jerry

A little bit of knowledge can be very dangerous.

[Rob]

7 minutes ago, jelida said:

Not EBay, but surely this auction is a load of total bollox…..😁

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=7558&lot=499

Jerry

I had assumed they took the vendor's description verbatim, as they would never arrive at that by checking any reference book. It isn't as if Geo. V pennies are difficult to locate correctly described. Lavrillier patterns are another matter

Edited January 8, 2024 by Rob

[secret santa]

I immediately emailed the auction house about this but never received an acknowledgement.

[Coinery]

This made me smile that, in the title, the seller drew attention to the fact it was holed, as if to avoid its other more noteworthy issues!  
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186237807944?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=csjIN_gZTVq&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=qduwzHkQTWC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[SilverAge3]

it gets tiresome to dig through crap, when I specifically use search queries like (unc, bu, uncirculated, ms), and yet I still get greeted by pieces which are listed as "bu gem stunning", but look like someone took steel wool to it. This isn't the most heinous example (those are often accompanied by insane pricetags too), but it's annoying. /rant

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315065305741

[SilverAge3]

Then there's sellers who have higher quality coins I'm looking for, but on top of charging high sums, feel the best way to show off a coin is laying it in their greasy hand. I might even consider the high price tag, even with the carbon spot, but how have they decided handling these coins like this is appropriate? Especially aggravating when it's a tough coin to find in higher grades, like this 1934 penny. This seller has several 1934s, all mishandled similarly, and priced at over £200, yet I can't find other copies this nice, but I can't justify spending this, since it'll likely arrive all oily and printed up. Really drives me nuts.  At least I know before buying that the seller mishandles them, is my only consolation.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145198978191

Edited January 11, 2024 by SilverAge3

[Coinery]

You can do much, MUCH, better than that for £220! I couldn’t tolerate those spots for that price tag.

Also, I wouldn’t let the hands stress you out too much, as long as you’re prepared to degrease it when it arrives. I degrease all of my milled, even occasionally hammered. Take a look at the threads surrounding acetone (surgical, not nail removal stuff with moisturisers), see what you think?

[blakeyboy]

I lost count of the times I emailed Torr coins to tell them to stop hanging their coins in photos on Ebay....

Acetone can leave a coin 'too clean', and the atmosphere loves that...the TINIEST amount of a benign oil,

olive, EML switch lube, etc etc and I mean the TINIEST bit, keeps things stable.

Put a speck on a small clean brush and apply like that - _no_ rubbing!

[Coinery]

3 hours ago, blakeyboy said:

I lost count of the times I emailed Torr coins to tell them to stop hanging their coins in photos on Ebay....

Acetone can leave a coin 'too clean', and the atmosphere loves that...the TINIEST amount of a benign oil,

olive, EML switch lube, etc etc and I mean the TINIEST bit, keeps things stable.

Put a speck on a small clean brush and apply like that - _no_ rubbing!

In the very, very, beginning I used to use olive oil, until I discovered it wasn’t benign at all. Olive oil is actually a weak acid, apparently characterised by an acidity between 1-2%.

Just taking a quick Look at fingerprint oil, it looks to be 95-99% water and measuring anything up to 5 on the PH scale, which I read makes it comparable to black coffee.
Needless to say I had an anxious few weeks decontaminating all my coins with acetone and sealing them back up again in airtight coin flips!

To be honest, though, I don’t think the dry, ambient air of modern households would notably tone a coin more after decontamination with acetone, than it would before, but everyone to their own experience and views on this, I do however choose to keep mine in flips anyway.

[Peckris 2]

11 hours ago, SilverAge3 said:

Then there's sellers who have higher quality coins I'm looking for, but on top of charging high sums, feel the best way to show off a coin is laying it in their greasy hand. I might even consider the high price tag, even with the carbon spot, but how have they decided handling these coins like this is appropriate? Especially aggravating when it's a tough coin to find in higher grades, like this 1934 penny. This seller has several 1934s, all mishandled similarly, and priced at over £200, yet I can't find other copies this nice, but I can't justify spending this, since it'll likely arrive all oily and printed up. Really drives me nuts.  At least I know before buying that the seller mishandles them, is my only consolation.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145198978191

Also - that particular coin has been photographed badly as far as the lighting goes: a top grade 1934 should be a completely different colour; remember, they were mint treated with hypo so shouldn't be all bright and shiny beige.

[blakeyboy]

6 hours ago, Coinery said:

In the very, very, beginning I used to use olive oil, until I discovered it wasn’t benign at all. Olive oil is actually a weak acid, apparently characterised by an acidity between 1-2%.

Just taking a quick Look at fingerprint oil, it looks to be 95-99% water and measuring anything up to 5 on the PH scale, which I read makes it comparable to black coffee.
Needless to say I had an anxious few weeks decontaminating all my coins with acetone and sealing them back up again in airtight coin flips!

To be honest, though, I don’t think the dry, ambient air of modern households would notably tone a coin more after decontamination with acetone, than it would before, but everyone to their own experience and views on this, I do however choose to keep mine in flips anyway.

Yes, hurried sloppy mistake.

I work with recording studio  mixing consoles that are changing hands at £300k plus at the moment,

and are full of silver plated brass switch contacts. 

A $12 can of 'switch cleaner" will  do £40k of damage to those contacts.

Properly thought through "Switch Lubricant" is another matter....

Try Electrolube EML.

It was specced for pro use in the 1970's, and still works, for _minuscule_ layer of protective oil.

[SilverAge3]

10 hours ago, Coinery said:

In the very, very, beginning I used to use olive oil, until I discovered it wasn’t benign at all. Olive oil is actually a weak acid, apparently characterised by an acidity between 1-2%.

Just taking a quick Look at fingerprint oil, it looks to be 95-99% water and measuring anything up to 5 on the PH scale, which I read makes it comparable to black coffee.
Needless to say I had an anxious few weeks decontaminating all my coins with acetone and sealing them back up again in airtight coin flips!

To be honest, though, I don’t think the dry, ambient air of modern households would notably tone a coin more after decontamination with acetone, than it would before, but everyone to their own experience and views on this, I do however choose to keep mine in flips anyway.

The acidity in olive oil is part of what gives it its pungent flavor. Besides, olive oil gets gummy, and can go rancid. I know for treating wooden spoons, cutting boards I use walnut oil, to avoid the rancidity and gumminess, but suspect it, too, is acidic, so would avoid on coins.

Edited January 12, 2024 by SilverAge3