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DrLarry
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You will, I hope, indulge my interest in these tiny miniatures. I hope they will be interesting to collectors many are new and not included in Rogers. I find them fascinating because of the whimsical nature of them and the role they would have played with children throughout the last 2 centuries. I am particularly interested in Lauer coins and would be grateful to have any exchange of ideas or research on the manufacturing history and distribution. Luckily I have the microscope and will will take images and would like discussion and debate about them from any collectors. I know they are not currency pre decimal coins but they are of interest I hope, as much as for any other reason than they are beautiful little replicas. It is also a chance for me to sort and re-examine them in between paintings just to clear my mind. Many thanks
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I could not find the previous discussion on the 79 shuttle type so I thought it best to start again. I managed to find another recently and this one is much better grade that the previous one . I know Jerry has another that he purchased at auction 152 item # 2434 and I listed another recently on a thread but on a search I could not find it again. It is clear on this specimen that the large lump of raised metal above the lighthouse is made up of four distinct units the base which takes on the appearance of the lighthouse used in later dates H rev I think it is (not that I am saying this is why it is I just mention it as the shape is similar) a blunt ended cone. The second layer seems to be similar in shape and form but offset to the left . A higher lump on the left base and lastly the highest section mid right. Interestingly it appears that the area below seems to be bordered by a fine raised line leading down to the top of the extant lighthouse. It may be that there is a depression. well it is an interesting variety (i think so in any case) the other one I have is the exact same outline but is less detailed (worn)
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I think when a die breaks and there is flow into the broken section I would not list the examples of cud I felt that the shuttle was more interesting because it has no attachment to any part of the legend or design . It stands alone in the field like these "cannonballs" on the 1875 which is not a dot and is quite irregular in shape. I am intrigued by there being an explanation for the dots that Richard mentions. in the 1879 there is a second "blob" above the shuttle on many examples that is perhaps more of a dot which presumably is also the result of a foreign body damaging the die.
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Oh well there are about 9 or 10 then . I didn't for one moment think it would get past Cerberus.
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Hi Larry, Thank you for the images of your “deposit” just above the lighthouse on you 1879 pennies. As you say it is amazing that no one has come forward with this ‘anomaly’ before now. It certainly seems to be a constant as you have 6 examples of this variety. I presume that it is on the commoner (M + k) variety. If so it could probably be recorded as BP 1879 Bh – (M + k) – With possible small piece of grit, metal filing, etc. got trapped on the reverse striking die leaving a small indent when it fell out that got transferred on the blank (coin) being struck and subsequent 1879 coins being struck. So far, it appears that about 7 examples are known in various grades from Poor to VF.
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Perhaps you might want to add it to your rare dot "varieties" I certainly think (although I am biased please note) it should be added
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I have presented the specimens of this penny to M Goulby and he agrees that it should be considered as an interesting example of another "dot type" I think there may be about 7 examples now.
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1923 Specimen Strike Half Penny
DrLarry replied to Patrick2023's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
it might be easier to set it free from its plastic tomb and take a picture , the poor thing just might be suffering from plastic entombment syndrome . Most of us set our canaries free , but I suppose when there is a question of its "label" you could always sell it to an American who will accept with reverence anything written on a label. -
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Yes I did start off with sets and boxes but then it just grew organically. Ironically I did not want to start with the most obvious lauer British as Rogers did in his book. Really a website should be the best option but I would not know how to grow and manage it. I think the field is lacking a good update and I know Kai was thinking of writing it for Galata books.
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Yes one of the groats from the series sold for £103 the other day
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I am excited to hear you have so many of the onions I would love to see them side by side too. I have been trying to collect them but I suspect I shall not now continue. My collection is too broad a church and eventually have to decide what I can and can't collect. I'm happy there are some full sets around . Amazing really that they must have once been quite common in schools.
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it is nice to see the market is quite buoyant for toys and tokens at the moment
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LOl ok yes it must be very rare first one I have seen. . Hope you are keeping well ?
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I am still somewhat surprised that I have a piedfort proof kew gardens 50p with a great sliver of silver sticking off the edge it is not as if it is microscopic being about 4 mm long and 1 mm high. I am going to assume it is an error minting and so may be more valuable , but as more and more mistakes are made perhaps I am assuming wrongly.
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Does anyone know who it was who purchased that S G Onions 3 Fourpence make a shilling token last night. It sold for an extraordinary price £103 . I thought I was being generous at £25 LOL but yes it is a rare one, unseen by Rogers ,. If it is you Kai please post a picture
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Confirmation of Dies Please
DrLarry replied to Kipster's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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2009 Mule 10 Pence With Lion Reverse of 2007
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2009 Mule 10 Pence With Lion Reverse of 2007
DrLarry replied to VickySilver's topic in Decimal Coins
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the magic combination would surely make anyone think twice, 0 feedback and the word "rare"
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I am not sure it seems to be on all of them something has been done at least with 3 errors I think perhaps my thought something put on backwards or rotated . It still has me confused after 5 years 😅
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Yes the 4th is the same by mistake
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I thought I had two others but seems I only have 3 the 4th seems to have been marked up wrong which might man it is in another envelope or it may be that one is still in the US . Whether or not these new images help I am not sure but there are the three examples one about EF one VF and the other F . Personally I cannot make any sense of some of the protrusions above unless a letter has been rotated but even then some of the angles seem just to be "wrong" and correspond to nothing else nor the piece that comes out from the central section of the E . I have only ever thought of it as an understruck R with the weight on the upper section because there is no negative space in the lower section to see if it is an R or a B ... Obviously there is a lot going on and it is a busy error ! as far as I am aware 5 maybe are known one was listed in a London coins sale I believe prior to my asking the forum back in 2018
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I thought I had two others but seems I only have 3 the 4th seems to have been marked up wrong which might man it is in another envelope
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There are some strange characteristics, I will look out my other examples and add them . Larry
