PWA 1967

Check the date on that Zoo as i cant tell properley from the picture but possibly 8/3 ?.

Thanks Terry . It was the helmet really that i looked at the one pictured looks curved rather than the Ja that is straight. I am often wrong though

This is were i am still trying to work them out 1874 Are you sure that is a Ja reverse Terry ?.

Hat off Paddy Something like that ebay should not just take it off they should just close all the account

Forget the rightful seller its the other bastard....... he is just bang out of order robbing low life prick Unfortunately someone is going to be buying an empty envelope. Well spotted Mark.

HAT OFF Jerry some fantastic buys and makes all the time spent looking worthwhile

Hi Mather. I thought £200 was a bit steep maybe but £450 Good luck. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1860-Penny-F10-Obverse-2-Reverse-D-Unc/292527105992?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D51001%26meid%3D5517efaad42145a099c515fda88694a8%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D123083187431%26itm%3D292527105992&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ad3232cf7-421e-11e8-a11d-74dbd18082c3%7Cparentrq%3Ad2dc5acf1620a86644369bfaffffa1d5%7Ciid%3A1

I think the seller knew it was a fake ,going of the way he described it and rediscovered it Maybe i am wrong but all looks towards him touting it on here and never posted since.

Not having a clue how did they describe a proof before 2003.......I assume just proof. This Cameo description is being used on coins from 1937 proof sets as an example of which there are plenty to choose from. I only used VIP as ones that should appear nice and like early strikes have more eye appeal.

So are you saying there is Cameo Rob as i would probably expect early strikes or VIP to look much better ?. This is a term being used on everything from what i can see even common years. Sorry i had to answer the door in between my post and you had already really answered the question

When this was first brought up i asked a couple of dealers as weather there was such a thing as Cameo BRONZE PENNIES.. They both replied in there own way. "i dont think so ,some are nicer proofs than others and i just think is was something started by American grading companies" "Is there FU$%" I havent bothered looking at pictures of them since

Yes i agree they started it and obviously some collectors want the label ,so more and more will start to show here in the UK.

Is it them saying it or are they just listing the grading companies attribution ?. Thousands are being graded every week ,so dealers will use this to there advantage and describe what it says on the label. The problem can worsen as dealers also start to use as a grade description on raw coins IMO.

Go on............gifts ,finds or swaps...........................

The guy who posted though even used the ebay pitch...... " recently moved house and rediscovered a tin of old coins i have had since year dot " Really hyped it up

Think mine have been open two long or i need to change my glasses. Time to close them for a few hours

Looking again Kev if its 1916 i am now doubting weather it is...this is what i was trying to say on the other thread that the ear is easier in hand or pictured next to another to compare. Normally the tooth on the 1916 you can tell at a glance. Nobody has corrected me YET so interested to know

Yes looking at the full obverse picture it does not look as noticable as most 1916 .

The thread is 18 months old Mark and he only posted once

Yes Richard as i mentioned there are others i suppose for everything we all look at different indicators first. The recessed ear Kev as its only just broken is it 1915 ?.

Thats no use i dont drink.....will just have the drugs instead

Yes

Forget all the ripples & plume Kev OBV 2 ...Colon close to both A:B between GRA & BRITT OBV i.....Gap to both A:B REV A.... No rim & First i in date to Tooth REV B.....Rim & First 1 in date to gap There are others but they are the ones i use first

Yes 2+B F177

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