PWA 1967

We are about ten miles away and can see straight to winter hill from the lounge window (upstairs flat).It was throwing it down for most of last night and had some heavy spells today. Sure it will of done some good as even our lawns are now looking green I should of also mentioned my mum went to the Barn in rivington at lunchtime (i think that is what its called) and was throwing it down at 12.00.

Failure is a word for people who dont have a go regardless of what it may be and IMO success in sport would not be acheivable without competition. We are all different and in sport if everyone was as good as the stars they would all be average. People may often lose and comeback stronger and better in sport. My comments were not based on you Dave or the post you made ,just more that we live in a country were alot of people will be negative of others . If loosing in sport is failure thats a word you may use but i choose not to Thirty one teams who got to the group stages have failed in this world cup from your comments..................They all should of in there opinion done better but there will be only ever one winner. Maybe we should concentrate on the good bits rather than the negatives which are easy to find. Yes your opinion is as valuable as anyone elses but please dont apply for the England managers job should it ever become available. Pete.

People and teams dont fail in sport they take part and sometimes lose. Some teams and individuals may be better however they are the small majority.Ask any boxer a good mate of mine has just retired after fifty two professional fights and didnt win one, but put good wages on the table that allowed him to look after his family. Some people give everything they have ,yes they may lose but still be given a hat off . To say if we had met other teams we would of gone out earlier IMO just seems unfair and also not relevant. Maybe Muhammad Ali , Sugar ray leonard , Sugar ray robinson and Mike Tyson were not very good as they lost and you consider that to be failure. As i mentioned in an earlier post if we had won 10-0 in the final some people would of still not been happy and said it should of been 11. All good fun and enjoyable watching

The 1922 you describe as " strange trident detached from the teeth "...........Do you have a picture please Larry The F192A is RARE

The animals that you see on coins Larry well maybe if they have lustre it might be a reflection....... looking at your avatar ?.

Good tournament for England with some young lads who surprised a lot of people and they should keep there head up and were not disgraced. We got to extra time in the semi final of the world cup and not many before it started would of thought that would of happened. .Sport to some people who participate is a way of suceeding in life,they may not be talented in other ways. Hat off to every one of them

Its me being positive Michael and mean when we play France on Sunday

Another step closer tonight and the furthest they have gone in my lifetime. 1-0.......Come on England and lets get in the final

Ian....... I have confused myself here yet again The Italic 5 is that known as the Large one then and the curl small , i am aware of the differences but just want to confirm please ? Also that the 1853 PT is about one in fortyish that is similar to Larrys findings ? Pete.

Well one out of forty eight shows how much scarcer they are Plenty varieties on the Coppers to look for. Pete.

Yes Larry its a common year and not hard to find one of each ,you will notice the small one described as italic and the larger one having a curl at the top. The scarcest is the PT ....Did you find anymore

Today is the DAY. Come on England when we win today we are in the final ,we will beat Croatia / Russia. 2-0 today

Looking in coin news Mike the show is on two floors but there are lifts plus a bar which i would of thought had seating

Although i have never been Mike ,i speak to a couple of dealers who will be there,some take cards and i know one will always take a deposit if he doesnt know you. Cash will always be better i would of thought especially for a discount I hope you find something and have a good day

Thank you. There is also a 1853 with the large 5 which is a DOT between the I & A in GRATIA ,you may not be bothered but a variety that you also may have in such a large group.

Why you have such a large group Larry can i ask you out of the eighty you have how many are PT please ? Sorry if its not something you know off the top of your head but the PT is much scarcer and would guess at three out of eighty

100% Spot on Peck and could not agree more.

Yes Larry dont be bullied Can i ask though what does "lean far to the right of centre " mean please ?.

Yes Ian ....I have just had a look at the two small date ones i have and the OBV / REV is exactly the same.

Jon.............Can you please have a look at the reverse and tell me if its a large rose ,i assume the coin is W.W. ? Pete.

Yes Peck ,more likely to be a five than a nine

Yes a seven i think. Often described as an underlying figure and sometimes a nine. The 1858/7 has three varieties with clear downstrokes ,one to the left ,middle and right all on W.W. pennies. So obviously entered a few times and the back (right outer) is more like a seven being straight and the tiny angle top right. The inner part of the bottom loop may just be the original eight that had broken. More importantly the Large rose are quite scarce Ian

The seller is a Forum member and knows his coins so although i dont know anything about them would feel confident buying from him

COME ON ENGLAND. Everyone of them played and gave 100% Ashley young was drawing two players off and was class.Big hat off to them all,the young squad that all the neg heads didnt give a chance have done as much as they could of tonight. We will beat Sweeden.............

Anyone who is still in deserves to be ,we are regardless of the team that we have or past form and results.We have only lost one game in over twelve months and Southgate is not spoilt for choice with who he can pick a squad from out of the premier league ,all the others are playing for other countries.People are having ago at them even before they have been knocked out .We win a couple and people dont think its good enough ,we lose one with a weakened team and the result did not matter its not good enough,we dont win and its not good enough. Some people wont be happy even if we win on Tuesday........Well to those people Bollocks . Either way COME ON ENGLAND.................