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I found one in not much worse condition (good fine)at the birmingham coin fair in a £5 coin box - I snapped it up it is a lot rarer date than folks realise. The damage on the coins reverse has turned it into a £50 coin and the seller should soon realise this . I could cry looking at the damage

Atractive very good fine reverse might even be pushed to nvf

In Dennis heally speak the royal mint is adopting a "screw them till the pips squeek" attitude to coin fans

TBH I would grade as very good fine , its also true you never find decent examples - the reign of steven is even worse

Almost certainly 1723, the 1722 and 1724 dates are a lot rarer

Price is ok if there is a sovereign and half sovereign in there

9/9 has to be wonderful though very clear

Halfpennies are pretty hard with few in much more than washer state , nicer grade coins are few and far between

Virtually no contemporary forgerys exist (Unless anyone knows different) but there are a few modern copies that might be passed off as the real thing . Surely these will just be the key dates - 1869 and 1875 h penny etc

I could just imagine ozzy osbourne in parliment singing this with crusifix and a load of bats flying round him Finished with my woman 'cause she couldn't help me with my mind People think I am insane because I'm frowning all the time All day long I think of things but nothing seems to satisfy Think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify Can you help me, occupy my brain? Oh yeah I need someone to show me the things in life that I can't find I can't see the things that make true happiness, I must be blind Make a joke and I will sigh and you will laugh and I will cry Happiness I cannot feel and love to me is so unreal And so as you hear these words telling you now of my state I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it's too late

The daily Mail?

Room 101 contenders ----President assad and isis

I had a 1902 penny with extra teeth and it bit me on the bum , doh

Oh thanks , you dont tend take much notice after 50 LOL

Well your 1945 shilling is only worth melt value at the moment - but it would not halm having a go at cleaning it - the above two ideas are well and good , remember as the coin is only worth scrap it does not matter much if you ruin it. Congrats on starting up the collecting again - you should find it nostalgic and more fun than years ago , also its more expensive as well , but you can't have everything can you?

Cleaning is very light on that one - would only reduce its value by a little

Looks ok to me , would dispute the grade though

Coins mostly need a quick wipe with just toilet paper soaked with acetone or a cloth , a cloth is better but you also have to wash it because acetone is a smelly solvent that you really don't want to be handleing , ever . This removes all the gunk from coins , you know the stuff that gets transfered from years of being handled in peoples pockets , removes all the grease and dirt and give the underneath a chance to shine through again Soap and water also works as well but just not as fast , several washes might be needed . Remember NEVER rub to hard or the coin might end up with surface scratches

The old favorite acetone may be better , its great on copper and bronze so I see no good reason why brass 3D'S would not be improved

I must admit italian coins have had such a colorful existance over the years I am surprised you dont just specialise in them . Remember napoleons italy and mussolini

Books in italian on english coins are probably non existant , a pity but not surprising as there would be a very small market and so specialist

OMG, SO VERY SORRY PETER

Perhaps MP would get the message if we all sent him a copy of the Who's single "won't get fooled again"

Just to deviate from the subject a little I went to Aston Hall in Aston. Birmingham after the coin fair in birmingham last month and the seal knot were doing a civil war demo (as the roundheads) it really was very good and free as well. I hope next year it is repeated

LOL at scott refering to W and M washers