copper123

At a quick guess I would say there were around 80,000 undated 20p coins that entered circulation They were NOT withdrawn from circulation by the royal mint but by people who found them in their pockets, putting them on ebay . How do you think the royal mint would withdraw them anyway? The only way would be to get banks to take them out of circulation and as there are about 20 000 000,000 of them in circulation it would cost a fortune to sort every mint bag in every bank , it would also have to be done on an arranged day , the man hours involved would be massive Do you seriously think the royal mint would do this - no chance - they even said in a press statement that they were "worth face value" no more.(folks on ebay thought differently) My brother worked for a bank at the time and he never heard of this recall.

Nutsabout coins is right from what I have heard . I did read the artical in their numismatic society about the undated 20p and its wrong , in fact there are three different 2008 20p coins , there is the early design 2008 20p, the mule, and the ordinary dated one

Really for the coins rarity it is overpriced for instance there are probably less TB-RB 1860 mule farthings hanging around than these 2p coins . When do you ever really hear of a decimal coin collector? Hardly ever IMO. At least there are plenty farthing collectors around . Hyped for its rarity IMO

That farthing forgery keeps on being relisted - looks like for once the fake pedlers are finding less and less suckers want to buy their goods

The anne copper farthing that had traces of gilt and was "Ex heritage" looked like a cast contemp forgery as well - it at least fetched a good price though I am glad it was not me that bought it

very wize and great digging info . Even though we know these charlatans will be gone in a couple of years -its the damaged collectors they leave behind that are the unlucky ones

he is on the third listing of the coin so looks like people have got the idea that there is something wrong with it

Beats me how some people make a living off selling coins when they fail to spot a obvious fake like this

Have a look at this coin 321966487122 Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. Looks really strange to me , like its a forgery , well overpriced as well so I am certain nobody would take a chance on it . There again you never know

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most interest in 1880 farthings concentrates on the obverse

explains a lot

These little tokens were very popular for a few years till the mid victorian period . There are many subjects but they seem at their most popular about 1805 till about 1860 There are lots of themes Waterloo Nelson Death of george III Death of george IV wife and daughter Death of George IV (more to be celibrated i would have thought) Georges coronation Williams coronation Victoria crowned. Some are cheap and nasty prob costing a few pence from street sellers . Remember there were no video tapes or dvds back then so people made do with what they could lay their hands on. Whoops just noticed it falls under the 1790s token series - It certainly looks more like a medal - It probably had a dual use

The more I look at this coin the less I like it

TBH this hoard will not matter much to coin collectors , as they will never come on the market Numismatists will have a lot of fun with them though

They usually do ignore you , I had one who just called me an ars****e though. His listing remained unaltered and his coin sold for a amazing 99p , justice , :lol: :lol: :lol:

I must admit I have been a smartass myself never ever with dealers though just private sellers , its the dealers who you feel should not need info , often private seller do.

Smart arsses

If you pick a coin out of a £3 coin box in the birmingham coin fair that you know is worth £50 is the first thing you do? A/ pay the dealer £3 B/Tell the dealer and let him pocket the extra £47 Answers on a postcard %^%^$^&%&^^ ""£%%^^&&&**(())))))0r4 "$^&&**(())&%$£££ !$%%&*((()))^$£%()_

Above poster might be right - it might have been underground for a long time - in whice case you are lucky to be able to even identify it - however it still looks like its been cast!

looks cast strange weight is about right - it may not be pure copper

Bet you bought is scott LOL

Ebay item no 311490552796 £156 for a £3 coin ! Why for gods sake! Anyone any ideas?

yer, they look ok to me in fact they are ok specimins IMO .(both coins are only found in low grades) Would have to have them in hand to be sure of course

I would grade as ef but really on a small coin it is really dificult to grade without having it in hand