copper123

The more I look at this coin the less I like it

TBH this hoard will not matter much to coin collectors , as they will never come on the market Numismatists will have a lot of fun with them though

They usually do ignore you , I had one who just called me an ars****e though. His listing remained unaltered and his coin sold for a amazing 99p , justice , :lol: :lol: :lol:

I must admit I have been a smartass myself never ever with dealers though just private sellers , its the dealers who you feel should not need info , often private seller do.

Smart arsses

If you pick a coin out of a £3 coin box in the birmingham coin fair that you know is worth £50 is the first thing you do? A/ pay the dealer £3 B/Tell the dealer and let him pocket the extra £47 Answers on a postcard %^%^$^&%&^^ ""£%%^^&&&**(())))))0r4 "$^&&**(())&%$£££ !$%%&*((()))^$£%()_

Above poster might be right - it might have been underground for a long time - in whice case you are lucky to be able to even identify it - however it still looks like its been cast!

looks cast strange weight is about right - it may not be pure copper

Bet you bought is scott LOL

Ebay item no 311490552796 £156 for a £3 coin ! Why for gods sake! Anyone any ideas?

yer, they look ok to me in fact they are ok specimins IMO .(both coins are only found in low grades) Would have to have them in hand to be sure of course

I would grade as ef but really on a small coin it is really dificult to grade without having it in hand

I really doubt if there is any money to be made sending up coins to be slabbed in the uk if there is I am sure it's in the £500 ond upwards coins so i am sure the trend will not bother me much , not on my budget anyway

Did she get to handle your crown jewels?

You would expect a victoria die no on any coin to have had a least 99,000 other coins exactly the same made therefore there should be no unique or near unique die numbers . This really is not the case there are many cases of practically unique die number coins . As for collecting ALL OF THEM NAY NAY AND THRICE NAY. A lifetimes work me thinks

NVF /GVF

lots of wear on obverse

could be real and tooled , but more likely a fake

TBH I think the idea another 1954 penny will turn up now after all this time since decimalisation is a bit laughable . If i was an underighter I would gladly give the owner of the 1954 a policy against anothers appearence , money for old rope

in the seventies i hear it was in private hands - it does seem unusual the bm does not have one .......but when a coin is that rare.......... Interesting about the 1953 pennies though, they are often found in circulated grade - prob folks who found themselves a bit skint in the late fiffties and broke the 1953 plastic set open , it was for sale with no premium attatched then - unlike the mint of today that charges £12 for a £5 coin and £8 for a £2 coin , basicly double or more than the price of the coin , excessive overchargeing for the packaging IMO

At a quick glance I get a- EF light edge damage b-GF/nvf c-A-unc or unc d-same E about fdc f-GVF G-unc H-nvf/vf

Exactly, and this period still has great interest to us collectors, pity about all those melted down hammered coins though, esp the charles shillings

silver coinage was made in several provincial towns in the great recoinage - i suspect the dies were made at the tower mint and safely and carefully sent to the towns , york , chester , etc probaby with a couple of senior staff to oversee production.

I think at the time silver production and copper production were in seperate areas of the mint . I surpose everyone wanted to work on the silver and gold coins as they would have more presteige. So the dregs and apprentices got the jobs on the copper

yes probably sold in the vatican to those guliable tourists for a fortune - I went there a couple of years ago and the rubish they try and flog you is amazing - plastic pope anyone?