copper123

people who call cn silver - dont think I am alone in that one

"Define Uncirculeted" How much am I bid for this extreamly rare vatiety , one of a kind never circulated , never to be seen again one of a kind R20 freeman scale. Bids start at £1,500

Ok ,Sorry yes, I throw the odd mistake in myself from time to time, so I will not be the first to cast a stone

Back to the original statement "Define Uncirculeted"Uncirculeted is a spelling mistake that should never happen LOL

I agree sheldon scale is superb if it had been introduced 100 years ago numismatics (In the uk) would be in a far better place now that it is

his private collecton went in the seventies didn't it ? From memory so could easy be wrong

Ditto - don't send for melt though better than that

Birmingham fair in September might be a good idea

The slabbed mule, it looks very much cleaned, but just on the obverse - TBH I am surprised freeman made do with a coin in that grade (did u mean it was from his collection?) - I surpose he had not had the royalties from the book come through - there are quite a few in EF-Unc grade , I have heard of about seven or eight at least over the years. The second mule , will its low grade but just look at the beaded border on the reverse - its fantastic and the teeth on the obverse are super as well as far as lower grade examples go it's just perfect

One or two light marks on the obverse of the florin stop it being Unc - Reverse is SUPERB

MMMMMM much nicer than mine - It's the common one but I am sure you knew that . I would really strugle to grade that at VF by the way NVF is much nearer tha mark , I love the reverse , obverse seems worse grade

Looks like A/Unc , though the picture could be a lot clearer , very well struck as well

My coin is in such poor grade you cannot tell the obverse type - still it really clear as TB/BB and thats what matters

The half crown i would grade as about EF too many bag marks and light wear

I have been around for ages and I have never heard of one for sale anywhere By the way the farthings are not as rare as most people think I would imagine between 250 and 100 exist (I have one as well)

"aUNC = a coin with wear that the seller doesn't want to list as gEF because aUNC sounds better" sounds like what a dealer whose name is well known on here does regularly though he does it with near EF coins not GEF His name sounds like ""at Can you think of anything better? As regards to gradeing systems, sorry I cannot

Gvf for the 1844 halfpenny for me though the reverse looks slightly better say GVF/VGVF but you have to remember apart from the comon dates of 1853 ,1854 and 1858 these coins are quite rare in the higher grades , good job there are few halfpenny fans around or they would be very expensive.

I think this statement is right "Uncirculated is a graders opinion rarther than a factual statement of what has happened to the coin over the past XXX years"

To be honest if you do get hold of a genuinly uncirculated coin you generally fall in love with it , you and whoever else sees it , this is why the massive price difference exists it's the (I want THAT one) factor, is more pranounced in the USA with many collectors paying five times the amount for a genuine brilliant unc coin when compared to a GEF 70% lustre

I must admit I bought a 1843 half farthing in Near EF grade (strict ) with 20% lustre for about £4 at the birmingham coin fair this year

That looks very sellable to me - pity there are few collectors of isle of man stuff - the island itself have killed off the trade by just producing to much of it

Tis true very few coins actually grade as uncirculated , it is probably the most hyped grade , most coins are either GEF or a/unc

I cannot emagine the mint has had to change even one mule 20p changed for a regular issue 20p , quite apart from the transport to get there what is the incentive?

Maybe its like the one used for coronations at westmister abbey - you know the one that george IV bought that added 5% to the national debt. It really has not had to much recent use

Just wait another 12 months or so and at this rapid decrease in prices you will end up owning the lot for nothing . Then you can pass them on to your customers, ( but then you will have to ask yourself honestly if imaginary coins have any value)!