copper123

Tis true very few coins actually grade as uncirculated , it is probably the most hyped grade , most coins are either GEF or a/unc

I cannot emagine the mint has had to change even one mule 20p changed for a regular issue 20p , quite apart from the transport to get there what is the incentive?

Maybe its like the one used for coronations at westmister abbey - you know the one that george IV bought that added 5% to the national debt. It really has not had to much recent use

Just wait another 12 months or so and at this rapid decrease in prices you will end up owning the lot for nothing . Then you can pass them on to your customers, ( but then you will have to ask yourself honestly if imaginary coins have any value)!

sandblasted at an angle with high pressure sand or something else for a very short time?

.... no it's not

Well I would make a guess at £800 -£1100 very specialist item if two farthing collectors took a shine who knows . Very rare and esp so in that grade , stunning as you say , one coin I would leave in a slab

Looks like a bog standard 1837 sixpence in VF grade price seems about right but a rare date might be fake. Dont like the orientation being wrong - should set alarm bells ringing

MMMM nice for £2 not unc but easy EF on obverse unc rev

Oh matron ! nipples worn down ,take it away! Nay nay and thrice Nay In for me in for me they have all got it in for me!

copper123 quickly runs to his collection and checks his loose drapery

To be sure I am sure that you need a higher grade example

those coins should be a good investment as well as being valuable now - I don't blame you for keeping them , they are very handsome too

there is the 1671 pattern is there not that had loose drapery sorry don't have a copy of peck to hand but I am sure there is a 1671 loose drapery pattern.

No I meant that the loose drapery is a variety that not many collectors bother with even though it is quite an important one

This seems to be one of those varieties that farthing collectors dont really bother about not sure why along with 1834 and 1835 1823 roman I, 1853 ww incuse, 1855 ww raised and a few others . I must admit I have one though

Funny enough George IIII farthings are very common finds and were hoarded by the public for some reason . They were the first issue of farthings since 1799 1806/7 so there was a bit of a shortage of that denomination in circulation . There were quite a few farthings made between 1821 and 1825 when coinage of pennies and halfpennies resumed , presumably the cartwheels and 1799 issue and 1806/7 issues were sufficient for the public's needs up til then.

In the immortal words of Mel brooks scott "It's good to be the king!"

i got a nice 1894 gef with lnice luster for less than a £10 note the other month - they are quite common all of the 1890's farthings are bar 1892

course i did

I am looking at that obverse and it looks cleaned the warning signs are on victoria's hair and the general look of the coin - it might have happened 60 years ago but I am pretty sure its been cleaned

"Votes for women in 1821" very forward looking. "pears soap" would be more likely

The funny thing is like a few countries round the med Cyprus, Greece ,turkey Spain etc there is no supermarket culture in greece. Last year i went to kos and the thing that really struck me was how expensive the local shops are ie £1.20 bread 60p bog standard baked beans the prices were at least 40% more than the uk and up to 100% more. I did find a newly opened lidl on the island and that one shop saved me loads. The locals always seamed to be getting a poor deal and really suffered

Personally i hate them they ruin the pre 1860 Victorian copper series

Sounds like their economy might have been in a bad way back in those days, as well as now if all they could afford too countermark was a copper halfpenny