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So here are my pics, I'd rate the coin as a straight VF, which is pretty much above the average for this rare piece. I'd already got one, but it's only VG, and cleaned to within an inch of its life. Once again Ian, thanks.

I bought this penny for £80 at the Midland Coin Fair last Sunday, and think that it is an 1854/3 but the top of the 3 to the top left of the 4 is less obvious - though there is something there - and the hair is much crisper than that usually found. The curve to the the top right of the 4 is obvious, as is the possible lower tip of the 3 to the lower left of the 4. The colon after Britanniar tilts to the right as usual. So is this an earlier stage of the 'normal' 4/3 obverse die, or a second 4/3 die with crisp hair? The slanted colon on the reverse would be a remarkable co-incidence if the latter. Richard, you have one of these I think. Thoughts please! Jerry

I saw their listings when in just the right mood....:-)

Thought this would amuse. I sent off form BOR286 to the Revenue, as suggested by Pete in a separate email to me on 30th May 2020. This morning, almost 3 years later, I get a simple reply as per below, referring me back to FEDEX!! The attachment to their reply shows that they received my request on 8th June 2020. GREAT SERVICE FROM CUSTOMS

Might be able to help you with the F78 Mike. Thinning down the collection, and got a good example of ja reverse on my 1875.............so guess that'll do for my needs. My F78 is aUNC with some lustre. Email me if you want to consider buying.

Don't throw good money after bad. Crack it out and move on. And treat the TPG as the sh*tshow it manifestly is. Don't reward them for getting it wrong

Unreal. I reckon you could tell them what you like, and it would be accepted as fact.

NGC get plenty wrong ,some more so than others. The coin label has now been changed and the coin not mine ,imagine getting this back 😂

Let the buyer beware But yes, they are obviously determined to absolve themselves of any responsibility for error in description.

yes I think the card counter idea the most likely I know that Gunther has a section I will take a look

If they were using up old 1853 dies, it's reasonable to assume that there was more than die that got altered, and the state of the queen's hair could differ between the dies. The above coin and one that I have certainly appear to be 4 over 3 types, with stronger hair. I have now added Jerry's coin and my own coin to the rare penny site together with an updated description of the variety to include these "stronger hair" types.

Recent addition, this is a Gosport (Hampshire) halfpenny Conder token