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  2. SohoMint
    Thank you, I did search through the British Museum online collection and unfortunately they have no images for them that I could find
  3. oldcopper
    Despite Peck calling both listed proofs EXR they're almost certainly PU, and any picture (apart from Peck's plate photograph) will possibly be online on the BM's website (visit their online collection - some of the coin collection is there but most isn't). There won't be any other photo as far as I'm aware, and even if either is on the BM's website there might be copyright issues with reproduction. There's no evidence that the copper P.556 is a "proof" It's in poor condition and is of the lighter brown colour as seen on Charles. An off-metal strike, I would guess it's a copper blank struck at the softer pressure as used for the tin coinage, as the fields are unmarked and smooth.
  4. Yesterday
  5. SohoMint
    I've been compiling a file in the past few days of the proof milled farthings and their respective images. It has come to my attention that nearly all of the monarch have had proof farthings in their reigns, and most of them come on the market quite regularly especially Queen Anne and Charles I. The issue I have currently is I am yet to come across either an image, or a listing, of a James II proof farthing. This isn't particularly surprising, short reign etc. However my main issue is that I know they do definitively exist as they are mentioned by Peck, one being a tin proof, obverse only and the other being a worn copper proof. I could hardly imagine that there were only two proof farthings under his reign, much less both be in the BM. If anyone has any images, leads or listings for a proof James II farthing, tin or not, it would be appreciated greatly if it could be shared with me.
  6. SohoMint
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  7. Sword
    Have you emailed them directly? They might not be prepared to search old records but you never know.
  8. Last week
  9. Paddy
    Agreed! I used to spend time and effort trying to debunk this rubbish, particularly when I was dealing part time, but now I have given up. A fool and his money is soon parted.
  10. Martinminerva
    Yes. I hope he was grateful for my detailed and thorough answer (!). This sort of ebay nonsense, inspired by poor journalism by the tabloids, really gets me going, thus I feel obliged to explain why this sort of thing is NOT an error or valuable. Viz. too "upside down" edges on former pound coins and £2's. As the lettering is done first, it's 50:50 which way up the lettering will be when the two sides are struck!
  11. Michael-Roo
    And the reverse die also having a little further deterioration at the corresponding area too. In all other respects the coin is about EF, with trace lustre around the devices.
  12. copper123
    that one is very week on charles hair/laurel leaves
  13. Michael-Roo
    Here's one of mine displaying the same die deterioration. A not uncommon feature on farthings of 1675.
  14. Paddy started following Sorting out the hoard.... and "M" defect £2 1605 - 2005 Gunpowder plot
  15. Paddy
    The OP has not been back since his query, and I suspect he won't be as he did not get the glowing response he sought!
  16. Rob
    I concur, especially if you were dealing with a mint state piece, which in this state looking at the rims clearly isn't. However, it could be that it was being electropolished to remove crud and toning marks - in which case, a beautification project. As one of ebay's 'must have errors', the condition is probably irrelevant to a great extent. Road kill status is likely to be the biggest impediment to value, when the knocks are impossible to disregard.
  17. Citizen H
    the crock clip biting to the coin is of concern, I use tweezers that are plastic, rather than metal, .....just an observation, 👍
  18. copper123
    yes pretty sure you are right
  19. Peckris 2
    isn't that where Bowie played his final Ziggy Stardust gig (and hadn't told his bass player and drummer)?
  20. Peckris 2
    the left hand coin - no brainer
  21. Citizen H
    I do have a wash a coin disorder🤔 however I don't polish them, obvious circulated damaged ones get slotted in until like on this occasion they get rotated and then the lesser quality will finds its way onto ebay, its quite therapeutic and if I'm honest this should of taken place ages ago...I just didn't have the time back then....many thanks for the assistance I can mull these things over and on occasion ended up keeping duplicates....I sure I'm not the only one..👍
  22. Rob
    For me it would depend on whether the brightness indicated by the one on the left is a result of polishing to within an inch of it life. I can live with faults if the coin is sufficiently rare, but it isn't. Personally, I would bin (sell) both and put the proceeds towards something better, which would be easy given the number extant. The detail visible has been covered by the previous posts.
  23. oldcopper
    You might know, but that 1693 shilling is the 9/0 variety, also signalled by the distinctive reverse die break. I had one of those once, it's not that rare though.
  24. oldcopper
    Duplicate post below.
  25. oldcopper
    It's always seemed the case that the 1897 high tide variety is an experiment to see how much they could enlarge this relatively new Britannia type - hence all three corners, trident, foot and shield are closer to the edge than in the standard variety. The 1895 2mm was conversely a slightly smaller version, deemed too small before slightly enlarging for the main 1mm issue of that year, which was the standard size.
  26. oldcopper
    1675 farthings are more often than not weakly struck on the hair and middle of Britannia. This year suffers more from that than the other years.
  27. wlewisiii
    Arrived today. The cleaning doesn't look as harsh in hand as it does in the photos.
  28. Paddy
    Definitely the one on the left. As well as @Coinery's comments, the detail on the reverse is far nicer.
  29. Coinery
    The right one has obverse gouges across the neck, and a reverse edge nick, that’s the decider for me. The right hand coin may also be pitted, hard to tell from the photos.
  30. Citizen H
    whilst sorting coins out I tend to find that there's already a dated coin in the "keep" folder, then its a case of weighing up what is the better grade of the two..... most I have (as you know 🤔) do come with circulation damage, but I always take a closer look at duplicates and see if there is a better option to keep... the (1816 Shilling) one on the right was in the folder, the one on the left is a contender to be an up grade..... it looks better to me, so I would appreciate a second opinion... before committing to swapping them around. 👍cheers
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