secret santa Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 5:09 PM, 1949threepence said: Before we get too sanctimonious and judgemental on sellers, maybe we should equally ask ourselves whether we would notify the seller what they'd got, if they were offering a real 1877 narrow date penny as a Bin for a tenner. My own 1877 F90 originally went up at 99p so I immediately contacted the vendor to tell him it was worth thousands and not to accept a tempting cash offer. Wound up driving up to Derby to inspect the coin before paying an arm and a leg for it ! 4 Quote
azda Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 Speaking of shill bidding, here’s some detective work 4 Quote
Diaconis Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, azda said: Speaking of shill bidding, here’s some detective work Interesting clip Numismatics’ nemesis, Numistacker again. What a surprise. Quote
azda Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, Diaconis said: Interesting clip Numismatics’ nemesis, Numistacker again. What a surprise. Exactly, what a surprise. He’s now kissing ass of the bigger players in the field such as sovereign rarities. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, azda said: Exactly, what a surprise. He’s now kissing ass of the bigger players in the field such as sovereign rarities. Now he has been rumbled Dave and you have caught him out, i will have £500 on him making his listings private in the next couple of weeks 👍 Quote
azda Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, PWA 1967 said: Now he has been rumbled Dave and you have caught him out, i will have £500 on him making his listings private in the next couple of weeks 👍 Its a possibility Pete, but he's selling off more of the modern stuff (yet still shills it on his channel) and is heading towards older numismatics. He is selling the Gothic etc for his sidekick Marc, Marc in my mind is the shiller and those were his coins apart from the Gold Hawking 50p which was also resisted, so that means there'another shiller involved as that was a different winning bidder, but all in all Numistacker knows who they were and their intentions. Slabs do have their advantages 😉 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 14 hours ago, secret santa said: My own 1877 F90 originally went up at 99p so I immediately contacted the vendor to tell him it was worth thousands and not to accept a tempting cash offer. Wound up driving up to Derby to inspect the coin before paying an arm and a leg for it ! Well worth the car journey and any other inconvenience to eventually secure it though, Richard. Presumably the seller was in ignorance of what it was, and might easily have fallen for the first decent approach. Although to a suspicious mind that might well have prompted further investigation as to why someone should suddenly privately offer a largish sum on a 99p starting price auction, for a seemingly commonplace coin. You definitely did the right thing IMO. 1 Quote
Diaconis Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 Far from being a penny aficionado, I had to read a thread from 2013 to see that F90 is a narrow date. In that post RCL35 had just picked one up in Chicago and various estimates were bandied around at that time ranging from £2.5k to £10k. Just out of curiosity how many examples are known to exist of this type, roughly speaking? Quote
1949threepence Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Diaconis said: Far from being a penny aficionado, I had to read a thread from 2013 to see that F90 is a narrow date. In that post RCL35 had just picked one up in Chicago and various estimates were bandied around at that time ranging from £2.5k to £10k. Just out of curiosity how many examples are known to exist of this type, roughly speaking? I'd say definitely <20: in all probability <15, and none of the known ones in especially good grade. Even virtual washers go for very high prices. For example this one went for £3,600 hammer at LCA in March 2018:- Edited July 12, 2019 by 1949threepence 1 1 Quote
azda Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 So he’s admitted shill bidding because it was a low price, but there are such things as a reserve for these kind of things 😏 3 Quote
Paddy Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 I have no time for him or his illegal practices. (Shill bidding is actually a criminal offence.) But to point out - the reason virtually no one uses reserves on Ebay any more is because they charge a substantial percentage of the reserve in fees, even if your item does not sell. 1 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WINSTON-CHURCHILL-COMMEMORATIVE-COIN/283551731304?hash=item4205000e68:g:HaIAAOSwVXpdL-XX Quote
blakeyboy Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 Already told them about the 'lustrous unc' 1875 penny. Charlatan. 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Michael-Roo said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WINSTON-CHURCHILL-COMMEMORATIVE-COIN/283551731304?hash=item4205000e68:g:HaIAAOSwVXpdL-XX What's supposed to be on the reverse? (or obverse) Quote
Sword Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, 1949threepence said: What's supposed to be on the reverse? (or obverse) It's blank (last photo on eBay). It's also very strange to have a hyphen between "Winston" and "Churchill". Let's just hope the thing wasn't made in the UK. 3 Quote
Diaconis Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 They say Oscar Nemon’s design wasn’t exactly flattering but if this uniface example hadn’t Churchill’s name in legend you’d be hard pressed to identify who it is. Quote
Peckris 2 Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Michael-Roo said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WINSTON-CHURCHILL-COMMEMORATIVE-COIN/283551731304?hash=item4205000e68:g:HaIAAOSwVXpdL-XX Is that CrossRail excavating a tunnel? Ah no, it's Winston turning rapidly in his grave. 2 2 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Where to begin? Every item listed is a delight. Edited July 21, 2019 by Michael-Roo 2 Quote
blakeyboy Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said: Where to begin? Every item listed is a delight. My thoughts exactly!! Quote
Coin#addict Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Here's a guy who rainbow tones his coins by the dozen. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A77-GEORGE-V-1935-ROCKING-HORSE-SILVER-ONE-CROWN-MY-GRADE-VF-PLUS/123842023115?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=f550c3fbcb2a4f668a58d4287d62f59b&pid=100675&rk=2&rkt=10&sd=123836885105&itm=123842023115&pg=2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:079981b3-ade4-11e9-b78a-74dbd18084c1|parentrq:22ddb29016c0aad34e6be624ff66352b|iid:1&redirect=mobile Quote
Diaconis Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Guess who 13 minutes ago, Coin#addict said: Here's a guy who rainbow tones his coins by the dozen. what a surprise...Marleybob again Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 On 20 July 2019 at 4:15 PM, blakeyboy said: Already told them about the 'lustrous unc' 1875 penny. Charlatan. Another tempting Churchill listing from dorigog0…... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1965-Uncirculated-Winston-Churchill-Commemorative-Crown-Coin/283555066364?hash=item420532f1fc:g:6KAAAOSwfmldM7~x 1 Quote
Sword Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, bagerap said: I'd be delighted to get 65p He probably came up with the £65 BIN by looking at the year of the coin. People like that are fairly harmless on a practical level. He hasn't ever sold a coin and probably never will because of his insane prices. Quote
Diaconis Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 The seller states 1 available, I wonder which one you’ll receive. There are two examples photographed. Quote
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