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Prices come with grades, die numbers won't have much influence. Welcome to the forum.

Looks like it to me also

An EF gothic for £1200? If it looks EF I'd be buying it then sending it straight to CGS, it's too good to be true

It's a brass token

Spinks Dec catalogue is also out https://www.spink.com/files/catalogue/15007.pdf

http://issuu.com/lc869/docs/a151_merged

The 1862/, 8/6, also looks like it is a 1862/1....... http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchterm=1862+penny&searchtype=1&page=Catalogue Bob, when I click on your facebook link I get a message that I'm not part of the audience for that page - any suggestions ? Works OK for me ... nice to see that Martin and David are together at last I just checked it, and it is ok. The page is setup to accept all viewers. There might be a situation where you have to "Like" the page...not sure about that though. Thanks for visiting! ps Very noteworthy that Martin and Azda are shown together on the log, I know David feels very close with Martin! Ha,Ha! Mr P has me blocked since we had both "liked" another same page and had a brief discussion about his eBay dealings, don't think he liked that somehow

Fine maybe less

I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.

There is no wear on Georgies eye so it would be a minimum EF, it's the first point of wear

If the eye has wear it would be in the GVF range, as there appears to be no wear on the eye I would say at least EF and £60 is ok for it.

I got a big shock Sunday at Midlands, Semra was there and she was smiling. It was probably just a photo of a smile that she stuck on her face

If it's any consolation, I would have bought it myself, it's a decent coin. As Peter says, break it out and send elsewhere if you want to keep it in a slab

You should buy what you like, people are only giving their opinions and buying from pictures alone can be difficult at the best of times. I often go by eye appeal such as the gothic crown discussed elsewhere in the forum by Swanny, even though CGS said its retoning I would still have bought it personally. Look for something with a bit of age and character, blast white doesn't appeal to me but does to others.

I'd have to agree

By the looks of it the rim has a knock at about 5 o'clock, without that I would have said BUNC as the seller states

The other Point being is that Spink Compiles their values from the previous year, so by the Time the Book comes out it's already obsolete, so checking through the 2015 auction results from around various auction houses would give a better guide. The reason i mentioned buckscoins was that he'd bought a Sov from Londons and in ttheir assesment of the coin it was good fine and the underlying numeral or whatever it is, in their eyes was indistinct, bucks had upped it a half grade and then became a 7 over 5. You Are doing the right thing by going through auction houses realised prices and you maybe can Buy Low grade sovs at bullion +20% but higher grade Viccies or rarities i doubt you'll get at bullion prices.

Spink prices are for all metals, not just gold. Some of their prices for other coinage are also high, some low but it's not just dealers who use their bible, collectors also use it, but there is other price guides out there for all coinage of the U.K, you don't need to think Spink is the holy grail of pricing. Buy another 2 up to date price guides and take the average of the 3 and then see how much difference there is. Dealers also have to earn a living, but there are rarities in all denominations which you'll never pick up at bullion value no matter how much you think it's worth. If you bought a rare Sov at bullion price you'd be happy but would you be happy if the bullion price was 50% lower than when you bought the coin and someone else is expecting you to sell it at the bullion rate of the day? I very much doubt it. If you like sovs, stick to the early Victoria years, but don't expect them to come at bullion value, it just ain't gonna happen.

I can't believe it was actually graded and slabbed Gary when you want to add an upload from your phone you must use the full version of the forum. If you scroll right to the bottom of the topic in which you wish to upload you have a full version button, but you may need to login again when doing so, you can also expand the pictures on the site from that version

Same die

Generally speaking, artificial toning is often used to cover up an old cleaning. Generally speaking the Americans artificially tone coins to enhance the price, so it would depend where it was bought

But you're in Spain

A UNC hammered at £600 in March and not quite as nice as this one, I'd say the price is about right at the minute

Alles gutes zum Geburstag

Never slab during an up coming auction, the consignments take priority over fee paying customers which I find disgusting tbh