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A bit ouchy from the Baldwins price of £380 http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/baldwins/catalogue-id-srbal10026/lot-d18c896a-8f57-4438-b674-a5090119e40d And the ebay coin 171951836983

I wouldn't crack it out, but it certainly looks like a raised dot too me

Coming second on that one with a bid of £1500 still makes me wonder why I didn't bid a bit higher. It seems very cheap with hindsight, but then the world was looking quite rosy at the time, prices for coins were edging up slowly, everyone was making money and there wasn't a financial crisis on the horizon. Go forward 5 or 6 years and the price of a 60/59 to the collector had doubled, whilst half the banking industry was spending its spare cash on changes of corporate underwear. Go forward another 5 or 6 years and the price has trebled from 2003, all paid for by government QE.It males you Wonder then at £4200 for the Spink coin plus the juice how much it will be listed for on the CC website

I would think someone has just been playing around with some counterstamps on an old coin. Welcome to the forum

Even so, 1 bid gets it for £65 cheaper than the website, it's also been there for several weeks at that price

Well i have to say, it's a First for me to See ebay being cheaper than the Website 171949393571 Same coin here http://www.simonwilliscoins.com/products/coin-details.aspx?id=S4012

Pretty much so Pete

Dave, I wouldn't say I'm a collector of this series - I've bought a few on a bit of an ad hoc basis but, as you can see, I'm pretty ignorant about these coins compared to the circulation coins. I'm certainly going to be a lot more wary about buying them in future.You learn something new in here everyday Rash, it keeps you on your toes.

Agreed, and as Rashenly is an obvious collector of this series it's obvious too see that even the best of us still have something to learn

I think VF is probably a fair assesment, I would have said NVF with your first images, but your 2 picture appears a little better. George V is a bugger to grade

Disaster has struck, my camera has died on me :-/

That's certainly a possibility Rob

Do we have a drool button for that 1861 bronzed copper proof, what colour

No themes here, just buy coins

Rash has some quite a penny collection and I have hopefully contributed towards by selling him one or 2 coins I had in my possession previously, hopefully you'll be much more a contributor Rash.

When I got my 1860 halfpenny graded by CGS I checked their website for prices equivalent to specific grades. The finest known at the time was a CGS80, I didn't expect mine to come up to that grade, at the time a CGS80 was valued by them at £750 so you'd assume my apparent "finest known" graded at CGS82 would be around £800-£1000, but nope, everything went backwards, the CGS80 is now £500 and mine now at £575

I think it would depend on what was graded, at CGS91 isn't that a proof? Therefor the PCGS/NGC grade should be PF whatever. Just took a look at the CGS site and CGS91 is aFDC meaning the coin was a proof issue

If it's for your own collection then the way I look at it is this, if you like it then buy it, i've gone over the odds several times because I believed the coin I was bidding on (mostly hammered) had either a good strike, eye appeal, rare or a Combined all 3 of those, if you want BANG for your buck then you could be sitting with an empty tray for a long time waiting

welcome back old bean

As it is a Spink book I doubt the pictures will be up to much! Their latest auction catalogue is an absolute disgrace with coins incorrectly described, incorrectly identified and lotted up as if a 2 year old with a bag of crayons was responsible! Good too see you back and in top form John, unlike your football team, howay the lads

I saw this a month or so back, they also have a new Scottish, Ireland and the Islands edition. I'll be getting both in due course

The only laws I know about for drones under the 5kg weight is mainly no flying 1.5km of an airport, army bases or nuclear facilities, the rest is common sense really which few seem to have.

The rotors spin at quite a speed and if it fell out of the sky could cause serious injury. You just can't fly these things without a bit of grey matter between the ears.

That's quite a low percentage John, I thought it would have been around the 99% mark.

A decent looking coin and i'd certainly say EF, but the rim knock would detract. Die cracks IMO bring nothing to a coin. As for small/large date i can't comment