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I agree with Stewies sentiments exactly, poor grammar and sentence structure

I only put the amount in as a basis, i don't know if I'll bid on anything or not. Probably am reading to much into it, but after seeing the grade hike on this coin and the grade they offered on my James I plume shilling, it's now really stuck in my throat at their double standards

Possibly, or my other thought was that they are perhaps being elitest and perhaps only want big guns bidding. I only put £1500 in there, so we'll see if I get approval or not

I've bought previously from Baldwins through the saleroom, so you'd think I'd be already on file, but you can't proceed without entering a specified amount.

That's a standard reply from the saleroom when you sign up.Really? I signed up to the St James auction yesterday and was approved straight away. They also Never asked how much i was likely to spend.

I just signed up on the saleroom for the Baldwins auction should anything be of interest and when signing up they are now asking for your projected spend, email arrived with "approval pending" I wonder now If my projected spend is'nt enough for elitest Baldwins and they refuse me. Let's wait and see.

Agreed, but you might need 2 tons of coins to make a bucket up

It would be interesting to challange Baldwins on their grade given the fact it was noted differently in another sale and ask shy such a huge leap

My VF Alexander III Penny. What would your opinion be Kai?

2 things spring to mind regarding the grade 1. The consigor could have stipulated himself the grade to be added for the auction if he is a dealer and/or known to the Baldwins crew. 2. It could be that Baldwins themselves are overgrading only because its a rare coin and are trying to push the price. When the eventual buyer comes to one day sell it on he'll then quote the Baldwins grade and so it will go round and around. I have an Alexander III Scottish Penny, it came from a hoard found in 1974, sold at Glendinnings in 1977 in VF grade, then again in Spink in 2013 with the same garde, after posting it on the forum most agreed it was GVF.

Bring him onto the forum

If you want to use a white background then use a whiite A4 piece of paper instead of the glove

120% bullion? Let us know If you find a mug.

Yours is definately lighting rpeddie. Try going outside and use the natural daylight, without flash and high marco settings

Here you go Paul, use the one I took of it.

Looks like an Aethelred penny

Hope it doesn't fall in his toes, he might break them with the weight of the coin

In order 5 3 6 4 1 Number 4 can mean 2 things, rare as in not many struck etc, or an exceptional high grade for a hammered coin.

At the end of the day, the grade and price Are both down to you As a buyer, If you have doubts and it starts getting expensive then i'd personally walk away from it, but another important Factor i take into consideration is the eye appeal of the coin, does it look good, easy on the eye, If so, then i'd pay slightly more. Grade, price and eye appeal Are all equally important to me when deciding to Buy or not.

As i said Dave, with overgrading the eventual hopeful outcome is that someone Will pay the higher end Book price, but As we can see not everyone is dumb As some sellers hope. Perhaps MP reputation is eventually catching up with him.

Lol, what can I say. I subscribe to coin news monthly and Mr P' auction descriptions always stick out like a sore thumb I assume he was looking for double the eventual price with the GVF grading, so not all ebayers are stupid when it comes to grading

Wise words Nonmortuus, you are already learning. We all make mistakes, (apart from Rob ) Buying upward of EF is another good choice, unless it's a rarity and only Low grades exist. As always, advice is always free, i still ask questions when unsure about something, so it's not just newbies, keep up the good work

Leaving grade aside for a minute, was it genuine?I believe so

I see Mr Platt is in coin news this month for the similar reasons he's talked about on this thread. I wonder If he'll threaten them with lawyers