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Funnily enough I was just looking at SNC June 1987 for something else, and there was an Almost EF one for £140 - so high grade ones do exist. They didn't notice the DFF, but you can see it in the photo.

Just looked at it Richard - thanks for the quote and your hard work ! Finding one is going to be difficult. Finding a specimen in high grade is going to be extremely difficult, although hopefully not impossible.

Interesting this conversation on the relative rarities of the 1843 and 56 pennies. While not a serious or scientific study, some idea of relative rarity can be derived from the LCA sales over the last 20 years. 1843 sold total 44 coins, 19 absent colon and 25 colon present of which 5 are DFF. 1856 sold total 65 coins, of which 46 plain trident and 19 ornamental trident. This would suggest that 1843 is the rarer date, though of the varieties 1843 no colon and 1856 OT are found in similar numbers. The total sample of 109 coins is likely to give a reasonable degree of accuracy, but not absolute- is there a statistician in the house? The prices paid for these latter coins, even in VG or corroded, tends to hover around £100. Jerry

I had to do better pictures of the 1913 F175 1 + B ,as the others did not look anything like it and people would think they are turning up everywhere. I was pleasently surprised when it turned up in the post 😃

Here you go... Now you can...

Of course not. They have no knowledge about coins, but are simply hoping that some junk in their procession might be worth a fortune without them knowing. Hoping that they might have a winning lottery ticket that would change their lives. They are going by "false hope is better than no hope" philosophy. Many of them have not got any feedback for selling.

Very pleased with the comments on the 14 + N above. Thank you. Not eBay. A Canadian seller. 19 Dollars Inc postage. Converts to around £11. Expected end of Nov.

Mystery solved. The coin arrived yesterday. Both the reverse and obverse are unmarked, so I'm guessing that it's some form of reflection on the lens. I do understand and like your die fill theory though.

Ah, Fat Freddy's Cat... My favourite: