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[Coinery]

4 hours ago, secret santa said:

F39

Thank you, appreciate that

 

[1949threepence]

One of my recent upgrades from Mark Horton, was to a superb UNC F71.

Looking at Freeman there is a little number "18" against the F71.

Note 18 states: "The obverse on these is really a variant of obverse 7, with a hooked nose and tie ribbon intermediate between that on obverses 7 and 8". 

I must be honest and say that I can't actually see any differences between the F71 (including the previous one it has replaced) and the other obverse 7's, even through a powerful loupe. 

Also, the first obviously hooked nose was on Obverse 11. 

 

 

[Iannich48]

The English pennies website has a note about Note 18. 

[1949threepence]

From the LCA website:-

This F71 appears to have an aquiline nose, with a prominent bridge - link - but that's not what I would call a "hooked" nose, as such. 

This F71 appears to have a normal straight nose, no different to any pre obverse 11 nose link

Freeman 106 - I would say this is a "hooked nose" link

Edited June 17, 2023 by 1949threepence

[DrLarry]

Could I ask if anyone else has any 1861  1 to the side of 1 in date pennies?  I have three but I would say the position of the 1 to the left of the last 1 varies two show the 1 distinctly to the left by 1mm or so and one other which shows the 1 high and to the left .  This one seems to be the BP 1861 Ka -(J =d) as noted by M Goulby the first I mentioned which does not touch the fully stamped 1.  Each one of the latter 2 examples seem subtly different , both however have the 6 over a 6 and it appears to be a reverse F  , in BP 1861 Ka the 6 is fat but there is no evidence of the 6 being over a pre-existing 6. the LCW exists on the one listed by Goulby and the other 2 I have no LCW the rock appears to the left of the shield 

 

Could those who have them please take a look .  Many thanks 

[Coinery]

On 6/16/2023 at 8:06 AM, secret santa said:

F39

I’ve just had my first look over your website…that’s a phenomenal body of work. Comprehensive doesn’t quite capture the immensity of it! 
Well done that man! 

[1949threepence]

14 minutes ago, Coinery said:

I’ve just had my first look over your website…that’s a phenomenal body of work. Comprehensive doesn’t quite capture the immensity of it! 
Well done that man! 

Sheer class isn't it. I use it very frequently for comparison and research purposes.

[Bruce]

8 hours ago, Coinery said:

I’ve just had my first look over your website…that’s a phenomenal body of work. Comprehensive doesn’t quite capture the immensity of it! 
Well done that man! 

 

i bookmarked it in my cell phone, tablet, PC for reference as well. Superb works.

[Coinery]

6 hours ago, Bruce said:

 

i bookmarked it in my cell phone, tablet, PC for reference as well. Superb works.

Me too

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Coinery

[Zo Arms]

16 hours ago, Coinery said:

I’ve just had my first look over your website…that’s a phenomenal body of work. Comprehensive doesn’t quite capture the immensity of it! 
Well done that man! 

Amazing isn't it.

And an inspired addition to his main Halfpenny site.

[Mr T]

19 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

From the LCA website:-

This F71 appears to have an aquiline nose, with a prominent bridge - link - but that's not what I would call a "hooked" nose, as such. 

This F71 appears to have a normal straight nose, no different to any pre obverse 11 nose link

Freeman 106 - I would say this is a "hooked nose" link

Are those links not loading for anyone else at the moment?

[secret santa]

1 hour ago, Zo Arms said:

And an inspired addition to his main Halfpenny site.

Thank you for your kind comments but the halfpenny site is very much an afterthought, something to do in Lockdown.

Pennies are my main (only) interest.

[Zo Arms]

11 minutes ago, secret santa said:

Thank you for your kind comments but the halfpenny site is very much an afterthought, something to do in Lockdown.

Pennies are my main (only) interest.

Apologies. The halfpenny comment was very much, tongue in cheek.

[1949threepence]

21 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

From the LCA website:-

This F71 appears to have an aquiline nose, with a prominent bridge - link - but that's not what I would call a "hooked" nose, as such. 

This F71 appears to have a normal straight nose, no different to any pre obverse 11 nose link

Freeman 106 - I would say this is a "hooked nose" link

 

1 hour ago, Mr T said:

Are those links not loading for anyone else at the moment?

They still work for me, and did so when I first loaded them. Always check links to make sure they work.

So, not sure. Maybe there is an issue.

[secret santa]

2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

They still work for me

Me too.

[alfnail]

... and me too... 

[Peckris 2]

On 6/17/2023 at 3:29 PM, Iannich48 said:

The English pennies website has a note about Note 18. 

Could you add a note about the note about Note 18 please?

[blakeyboy]

1 hour ago, Peckris 2 said:

Could you add a note about the note about Note 18 please?

I do note that your note struck an odd note.

 

[Mr T]

Hm, working now.

The noses do look a bit different for sure.

[secret santa]

On 6/18/2023 at 9:32 PM, Peckris 2 said:

Could you add a note about the note about Note 18 please?

I've added a little more to the Victoria bronze obverse page on this.

https://pennyvarieties.wordpress.com/victoria-bronze-part-2-1861/

[1949threepence]

2 hours ago, secret santa said:

I've added a little more to the Victoria bronze obverse page on this.

https://pennyvarieties.wordpress.com/victoria-bronze-part-2-1861/

Thanks for the additional comparative detail, Richard.

[PWA 1967]

A new one bought this week not attributed and believe only four known.

Gouby recorded as BP1870Am.

 

[Iannich48]

On 6/23/2023 at 8:19 AM, PWA 1967 said:

A new one bought this week not attributed and believe only four known.

Gouby recorded as BP1870Am.

 

Nice dot.

[1949threepence]

I wondered if anybody had any thoughts as to how rare or otherwise the 1858/6 penny was.

Somewhat curiously, it's not noted by either Peck or Bramah. Gouby mentions it in passing, but as far as I can see, does not speculate as to its scarcity.

I managed to get one from Britannia Coins in August 2020, toned aEF and issue free, for £66, which struck me as a slam dunk bargain.

Not a coin you see offered every 5 minutes, and when you do, close up examination usually reveals that the seller has got it wrong, and there is no giveaway vertical line on the left side between the loops of the final 8. Some even with a large date, whereas of course all 1858/6's are small date. The genuine article seldom spotted.

I'd have to say rare, possibly very rare.    

[Rob]

2 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

I wondered if anybody had any thoughts as to how rare or otherwise the 1858/6 penny was.

Somewhat curiously, it's not noted by either Peck or Bramah. Gouby mentions it in passing, but as far as I can see, does not speculate as to its scarcity.

I managed to get one from Britannia Coins in August 2020, toned aEF and issue free, for £66, which struck me as a slam dunk bargain.

Not a coin you see offered every 5 minutes, and when you do, close up examination usually reveals that the seller has got it wrong, and there is no giveaway vertical line on the left side between the loops of the final 8. Some even with a large date, whereas of course all 1858/6's are small date. The genuine article seldom spotted.

I'd have to say rare, possibly very rare.    

I've had 3 in the last 15 years