PWA 1967

Seemed as good a place to post as any ,this in my opinion is ridiculous 😯 RWB Auctions - Fine Art & Numismatics Auctioneers based in Wiltshire | 1953 Queen Elizabeth II proof nickel brass Threepence, graded PF 69 Ultra Cameo by NGC (S 4152). Obverse: Mary Gillick's first definitive portrait... The sixpence went for over £1K and although they may well be nice and worth a premium ,those prices have gone out of sight.

You have confused me Terry ,not sure what you mean "they are both Ac with the 0 to the left of a tooth "? The ones first posted are not over a tooth or 12 teeth ,they are to the right or do you mean the last two wider ones.

Coin fairs are without doubt the best and forming your own opinion seeing the coin in hand. ,then if you take the coin home and not happy you can only blame yourself 😀.

Even buying from pictures can sometimes hide cleaning and not be a true likeness of the coin in hand and we rely on an honest description ,yes i agree it is however much better with pictures unless your buying off a dealer who you can trust to describe and grade correctly. Just post it back for a refund and perhaps next time phone them up first to confirm the coin is problem free before buying ,or dont buy from them again 👍

I have done a post on one of the facebook groups ,one of the members is now employed by eBay to help stop this with coin sales. I know he has a hard time looking at pictures of fakes ,1933 pennies ,coins of all different denominations etc , but hopefully he will be able to take some action. I will share your pictures if asked Richard ,hope thats ok.

Yes me to ,its doing my head in 😀.

No sorry its not one.

I think a lot of the varieties put in the book were already catalogued in other books or information given him by other collectors as he mentions in the first copy of "Bronze coinage" only having 2000 halfpennies 1860-1970.The book was a study of dies and the indicators which he then gave a reference and only needed one example to be able to do that. The 1956 Halfpenny F474 R12 1001-2000 ,although collectors fifty years later are only aware of less than 10.

I believe freeman had a deal with a local bus station in the sixties were he bought them all at face value , then went through them and took to the bank himself.

Think its just my picture as using a magnifier looks the same as the top one and over a tooth. The third picture is a single exergue not double and from the ones i have looked at are all the same.

The best narrow date i found ,which is photographed in a flip.

I have never looked before Terry and thank you for bringing them to our attention. I have just had a quick look on American eBay and the first few i have looked at a couple appear to be the narrow one. Am i missing something and wrong or are they the right type ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204589827335 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126257870145

I am glad my Grandaughter has grown up and the Elf has gone after what it did to me. Happy Christmas everyone and all the best 😀.

Just an update on this coin and the 1854/3 that i purchased off eBay from America. I was charged the 20% on both and as i have numerous times before posted the relevant details and form etc to Border force. One thing that has changed is previously they have always posted me a cheque ,although today received a letter asking me for my bank details to pay me. Only takes a few minutes and if your charged to much ,why let them keep it.

A rare site in Manchester just taken from our kitchen widow 😀.

A rare 1896 Very wide date and eight years looking at thousands to find a really good one. Gouby BP1896Ad ,NGC MS65 not attributed.

This picture that Terry put on a few years ago shows the difference well. The single has no line /s below other than the one thick one ,these are as in Richards picture the double. Compare the third picture with the top two. Regardless of wear they are easy to spot when you have seen a couple ,obviously even more so in hand 👍.

This is what i was trying to explain ,using pecks picture and Terrys to try and show the difference ,which although maybe the light and picture i am still not sure 😀.

You may well be right Rob ,i am often wrong. What made me look twice though is on the single the waves merge into the line and on the double are on top. I will put it down to the picture and my bad eyesight 😀.

Maybe its just the picture but doesnt look like one to me ?.

This is a disgrace ,i sold the coin as an altered date on facebook and the buyer re sold as an altered date on eBay. Now this clown has decided to try and have someone over as genuine. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266487532448?hash=item3e0be50ba0:g:GIIAAOSw65xlRNRf&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwDKw%2Fdk1UJGufEcBK%2FHmtR34Tpcipq5SaM0Tvk4bm%2FIcXFCILu2ldfG6pQRQhp2iU7txJHl3pnNyQK7H9ecCe5dAjrWYi9BVkzsjbF3iHXjVjcYGTCjPNyF7gSQRAFEsucsR8hkFqFp7jJxhi%2FH0SIZHVGvYDlG7Hz2ftZkpihzd79jv96zRooBdjWl%2BPqHDfD8yIaHucgRcq4RzJS%2BQS7PSqtun1voQMnuBUYuxzl5dO8%2BKLoTdplXTtgqzJquKxg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9r4_tzyYg 👎

1854 4 over 3 ,not attributed by NGC.

F803 "PennEy" Model Pattern. Although i have had two others this one much better.

Thank you ,do you know if the Half crown was also at Baldwin please ?

Its only easy if you know what to look for ,i know that sounds a bit daft but if you dont know the indicators like people didnt with the farthing ,your not going to find a genuine one ,unless its attributed correctly by the auctioneer. Obviously thats IF there are differences which i have been told in the past there is ,although being silver never took any interest and would not know what to look for myself 👍. If the St.James crown was one and people know it was who bid and wanted it for there own crown collection ,its the only reason i can think as to why it went so high as obviously rare with very few known ,especially not still in the sets.