PWA 1967

Yes thats a really good buy . I paid £100 for mine and havent seen one since.

Well done loos some are hard to tell and i would be lost without the forum or the books i use almost daily. The michael gouby book is good as mentioned and available off his site. The British Bronze Penny 1860 - 1901

Hi Dan and welcome to the forum.

Normally its me who is stupid ,nothing wrong in asking questions if so i would of been deleated ages ago.

Thanks and rob was the first person i asked before i put the thread up. I am starting to think he didnt write any though as would of thought someone would of seen or recall reading them.

Lovely coin ian.I would say its a dot and although i know you dont like slabs no benefit to taking it out.

Hi Hakan and welcome to the forum. You need to post a picture . Pete.

Not me vicky as Colin cooke bought that one.

Thanks rash i did not no that indicator and quite a big difference. Are you a dentist

Still hard to tell. Thanks Gary will have a closer look under a glass. My purchases arrived from spink today,nice to have them in a large flip and adds to the provenance.

Not having any books to hand. Can anyone give me a main indicator with regards F10 and F13 stuggling to tell any difference. Pete.

Pretty much so Pete Thanks dave and sorry andriulis i was a bit harsh.

Yes i should of noted with collecting pennies that most are not the best strikes for george v. Have i now learned its the same for all denominations ?.

Thank you Rob for an interesting post.

I learned that some pictures worth looking at again your later ones better. Sure you can find a better one though does not seem something rare/unusual. Can i ask what you paid for it ?. Thats the important bit ,so if you want to buy a better one you can get your money back.

Much appreciated! I ordered this and although the seller reimbursed my money never turned up and cheaper on amazon.

Lot of people on here with much more knowledge than me. Hopefully someone else will give you an opinion. The last few pictures make it appear better. Pete.

After all the expensive pennies over the last couple of days Andy scott collection and coinex its nice to pick up a cheap one. Just a 1953 proof from the sets ,cheap and cheerful . C.g.s. 8890. Pete.

You said be harsh so being honest it appears to be.......Terrible ?.

Not want to put a negative in. However V/F or better i am not sure about that.

Yes vicky i agree they are both independent and should be treated as so. As per the earlier post cgs should not be comparing themselves with the sheldon scale IMO

Another one i bought already slabbed 1857 penny pcgs MS65 cgs 78 Can name numerous others just using an example uin 19251

It was just a coin with a ticket sword(out of a slab )and was sending a batch anyway.

The prices of cgs of which i do have a bit of an idea are in general high (as everyone knows) we determine what to pay. However there are numerous that are IMO to low. 1934 penny in unc £50 (i have been looking for ages). 1911 Gouby X good fine £100 (scarce) and plenty others especially the ones they have graded 85 mint state copper pennies with full lustre are scarce for any year. Some worth more some worth a lot less i am sure i have paid sometimes more than i should of as I might not see another as nice (scarce) for a few years so just bought it. Having looked at grading in some detail i would say that a cgs graded coin is done a lot stricter especially with regards coins being rejected for problems. I have numerous coins i have submitted to cgs one was NGC MS65 came back as cgs75. Alternatively i have sent a MS 62/3 that came back as cgs 82. I dont tell cgs they were slabbed before as the grading i feel would then not be influenced by another opinion. That is not to say the other grading companies have a bigger audience and may return more money at auction or resale. Pete.

I've just bought a UNC 1886 penny, which it turms out is an 8 over 8. Does this carry a premium over the plain date type? Sorry dave i dont think so just a variety that is miniscule .It was just an impulse buy for me as i didnt have one.