Swanny this is what we mentioned earlier. Sellers can ask what they want and unfortunately some sellers are greedy and unrealistic. CGS give a value on each coin unless rejected (IMO maximum) ,because you know what day it is you can look at another coin to buy or make an offer ,surely recent coins dont need to be slabbed ?. One thing in fairness to slabbers is you sent your coin for an independent opinion and sometimes you or the seller may disagree. If you dont want a guide on grade/value/authentication thats ok and dont send it to anyone regardless of TPG. A few people on here i would send a picture and trust and even then as i recently have sent an expensive coin for grading as i will incur a further cost. I dont sell any and have some i wouldnt send to get slabbed due to obvious problems. You bought a cleaned coin and they told you and thats what you paid for ,what did the seller say ?. In my opinion they did an honest service and if you want to kick up a fuss tell the person who sold it you its not worth arguing. I received two back from slabbing out of a large batch this week and got an immediate refund. The seller knows i will buy from them again and i was happy that the downgrade /problem would not be found in twenty years time. I would be saying thanks to.... CGS...... SWANNY , they gave you an honest opinion rather than told you what you wanted to hear. Pete.