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If that is mm spacing then a farthing. Makes sense given the weights. Old sterling pennies were 1.4g down to 1g ish, so 1/4g =1/4 penny. Do you have any reference books? Just wondering because by Eliz.1 the penny was about 0.5g, but that had declined over a long period. Coin values are determined by the diameter of the inner circle because the outer one is too susceptible to spreading when struck. Rules for the future: 1. Get a Withers small change book. 2. Get a Withers small change book. 3. Get a Withers small change book. 4. Get a Withers small change book. 5. Get a Withers small change book. The surplus suggestions are to cover the 4 periods contained within the volume set, and allow me to book some copy and paste replies without having to make any other contributions. They cover Ed1 - Ed.2; Ed.3-R1; Henry 4-6;Ed.4 - Henry 7 and Henry 8-Commonwealth. You don't have to buy every one at the same time unless they are offering a discount to clear some stock. It is the best reference available and is regularly updated. Worse advise (sic) is available on ebay from some aspiring millionaire who found this in granny's change the other day, conveniently overlooking the moneyer Grunal. Hint. This is Dave Greenhalgh's name for coins he has made, (legitimately for the purpose of demonstrating hammered minting techniques).

I remember a documentary in the 1960s showing the young royals preparing for Christmas decorating a tree. Anne was up a ladder and Andrew was trying to climb up with her. She turned on him and ordered "Geroutovit!" loudly. She obviously spotted a wrong'un early on!

certainly yes , in the war years QC was not the same as when we were not at war

Yes Paddy i was the same, couldn't make head nor tail of it, excuse the pun, until my son took a close up picture and outlined it. Apologies for the drawing

I was thinking perhaps grease in the die as there is no relief to the part of the "E" it seems you are referring to.

Wow...this is amazing, I take all of this and add it to a paper square that I slot into the file pocket with the coin in question....once I have things in date order so end up moving coins along so the newly identified sits in date order.... 👍this information is incredibly interesting and forever retained....Many many thanks it is greatly appreciated. 🙏

I can't make much sense of what I can see. However it looks fascinating, good luck finding out more about it!

Yes, as Rob says, a farthing not a halfpenny. With the beaded inner-circle on both sides, as well as the Civitas legend, makes this class 28 onwards. The high crown, with that classic axe-like left fleur and, of course, the bust, plus the broken-topped angle-backed E, makes this most certainly a London Type 30 farthing of Edward II

I have merged the 2 similar topics into 1. 5 oz is it. I can't remember off the top of my head (without checking) if the £10 silver proof version of the Music Legends coins have the same design as the £5 variants. Sometimes they have slightly different designs for the larger silver proof versions of coins.

Oh ok. Then hello and welcome! Can't be too careful these days.

I have one of those 1721 over 1720 - though in pretty awful condition. I think this is the second one I have had through my hands.

Copy the pictures and post the reduced size image, or alternatively stick them in a zip file. Don't know how to do the latter, but it might help. Feels strange that someone with a 'Help for the digitally challenged thread' should be giving advice.

Yes. It looks like a cud, where a piece of metal has become trapped between the dies when struck, hence the excess metal. It could have been a flaw flaw which was the source of the metal or something external, but it ain't right. I suggested the latter because of the mess underneath the top of the F too. 3-D pictures required to be certain.

Thanks Stu! - PM send - If the scans doesn't work out we'll just have to wait for the sun will show up again at some point...

Starting off, I owe you all a big Thank You...I came here 1 year ago and was recovering from a stroke... my reading and speaking has got better and my chaos has improved as well.... to a degree. Ive attached some photos of what's been paged and has put some order in place.... if the worse happen I'd hate to think what would have happen to these coins... The hammered coins (pennies) still cause problems for me and still there others to follow.... Sorry! 😟 once again a huge Thank You one and all for the support and clarification when assisting my queries, I wouldn't have been able to have got this far without it. Kind Regards "H"

Thanks Citizen H. Your help is much appreciated.

I think people get a bit worked up over the question of cleaning as the topic is somewhat nuanced. Every coin in circulation showing signs of wear has effectively been cleaned because the act of circulation ensures that contact is made with other surfaces which rub against each other. i.e. nothing different to taking a the use of chemical cloth to a coin and rubbing. That just speeds up the process. The only thing that is offensive in the eyes of most collectors is a case of a polished coin, with or without the use of chemical substances. Personally I love toning for the fact it gives added confidence that the surfaces have not been messed about with, but even that has a few caveats because silver dip will leave a residue on the coin which over time will give the piece in question a typically pinkish hue. Any coin in someone's pocket will end up from friction with lots of faint parallel lines, because they were there. Without polishing chemically, I defy anyone to see the difference between pocket rub and a soft cloth, though clearly it would be possible in the case of demonetised coins to use your loaf and conclude that not being in circulation any more, the only option left is deliberate. In the case of the Morgan above, if the surfaces aren't reflective, probably not other than 'cleaning' from circulation, because there is clearly wear to the high points.

I was fortunate enough to pick up mine before the prices went completely crazy:

I rather like the Princess Anne portrait myself. It's quite a good likeness and she is 75 years young after all. Here is a photo of her taken this year.

Maybe their should have been a princess Margaret coin should have had a fag in her mouth and be doing a Hilda ogden

Ghastly, but the portrait is marginally better than the recent Princess Anne.

Sono così felice di questa moneta da 10 sterline!!😍😍