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The obverse legend reads EDWA R ANGL DNS HYB I can't see any contraction (abbreviation) marks (commonly apostrophes) after any of the parts of the legend, although they could still be there unseen by me. The reverse legend reads CIVI TAS LON DON - So the mint is London That obverse legend is common to classes 6b, 8a, 10ab-11, 12a and 13 with 10ab-11 being the most common. So Edward I or Edward II (from class 11). Definitely not Edward III class 15d because the obverse legend doesn't fit. The left fleur on the crown looks broken to me, so that would probably mean class 11a. which would make it Edward II. That's my attempt with close reference to my Galata Guide to the Pennies of Edward I and II Edit: I should add that it is not really my main area of expertise, but I do have a fair number of these pennies (more than 30) and a good book on the subject.

so another delve into the collection box of small mouldies that ive been avoiding, starting by fishing out all of them that I found to be continental and that been mainly nickel ........not of any great age or interest, 😒 others that I found are the silver British ones mainly Victorian so will be back to look in to these at a later date......... clearly I had never had any organisation way back them this all started. However......... I did at first dismiss this one coin at first as I didn't realise what it was as its details were covered in ....crud?!?!? warm soapy water has revealed a ½ Guilder - William IV.... it really made my day. any comments ? much appreciated, Rgds "H"

I like the E&D/BG Wm IV coins as the busts are all taken from current Wm IV British coins, so this is his sixpence head, the guilder has the shilling bust, the 1/4 guilder has one of the maundy busts and the 2 and 3 guilders have the slightly amended halfpenny and penny busts.

Nice find - these coins aren't too common, although they clearly saw some use as yours can attest.

low mintage as well

Agree to all, 1859. Obverse 2, with 2nd I in BRITANNIAR to gap.

Spot on - just die fill, and very common.

Hi, I'm very new to this so any advice on improving posts for the future would be well received. I was wondering if anyone had seen anything similar to this 1863 penny before, I've seen a few recognised dot varieties but nothing like this. Any help/advice very much appreciated.

This. They were struck in large numbers in non-proof uncirculated (ie currency) pieces regardless of them being commemorative issues & as we know many commems find their way into business "currency" channels.

The odd few did circulate esp in the war years remember many people finances were turned upside down. Many of those that circulated have been melted down now as they were seen as useless as no-one wanted them in the fifties and sixties , not collectors anyway

That's a new one to me. I'd like to add it to my rare penny site if that's OK. If so, could you post the full obverse photo and let me know if you'd like to be acknowledged. Thanks, Richard

Alan's son Lief has a large part to play these days. Maybe that's the reason. Still, not had a problem with them though. I bought a token in the last sale which had a spot of verdigris, so he offered me a better one instead at the same price. Very happy.