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Yes, I understood that and was just demonstrating that they're curved on my examples.😉

This. If I have £500 to spend then I don't suddenly have £600 because the BP has gone up.

In fact the tail if the ‘G’ is very variable in these early bronze pennies, many in my collection have these curved sides and some the more rectangular, but whether due to die wear or a formal font variation I don’t know. Perhaps proof coins, if from unworn dies, might clarify. Clearly the ‘G’ repair punch used here had the curved sides, and thus differing fonts on one coin is quite possible. Oh, and congrats on joining the VIGTORIA club, Richard. One of my favourite errors. Jerry

I think the BBC Pips should be released back into the wild....

BBC pips where? If in a browser, you'll find it's automatically a minute behind the actual time. I don't know why but that's how it is. I can live with it but it's a major irritation at midnight on New Year's Eve.

Well, naturally one would adjust bid to the premium BUT there is a tendency at least when on-line bidding at premium auction to forget just a little bit. Also, ahead of time I just don't engage in the auction at all on some and especially if there is a starting bid that appears to high. I suppose this has been studied, but I wonder if a coin goes for an increment or two less if auction houses don't occasionally take a loss when premiums are raised.

perhaps then the object was to repair this G in REG as M Goulby explains as Richard mentions ....there is certainly a lot of action on those G's

some strange things happen to a number of the G's but I think this better example in DG might explain some of the strange "ticks"

yes I do too . I was intending to list them in the thread I started on legend errors but so far have only got as far as 1860 there didn't seem to be much interest , not that that should deter me LOL

I think 20% is the medium price of auction houses, though some maybe lower n some higher. I used to set a gross sum intend to bid before auction. If an auction charge a higher premium, then the bid will be lower. If the premium is lower, then the bid can be higher.

A very interesting and plausible explanation. I’m sure there’s much more to the story, however, given the straight sides of the tail of the ‘usual’ G and the very different curved sides in the tail of the G in Victoria. Only ten known surviving examples? You must be absolutely delighted…what an acquisition for a penny collector! Well done, Sir!

The working die wouldn't have been created with a G in VICTORIA and therefore it must have been caused by manual intervention. London Coins note that the rogue "G" is of a slightly different format to the other proper "G"s (in D:G: and REG) and Michael Gouby suggests that it might have been caused accidentally through an intended die repair to the "G" of REG being carried out by a repairer forgetting that a "G" on the right of the incuse die will actually affect the left side of the struck coin, and inadvertently "repairing" with a "G" punch the "C" of VICTORIA instead which is on the right side of the die diametrically opposite the "G" of REG. Anyway, the error must have been spotted quite quickly given the restricted numbers of affected coins that reached circulation, as demonstrated by the fact that only 10 surviving examples have so far been recorded out of huge numbers of 1862 pennies.

Some coin collectors have been collecting rubbish for just as long.....:-)

A common coin but the toning is nice and much more intense than that shown in photos.