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I think that was just sloppiness on DNW's part - note that it sold for much less than estimate. Also, I think the grades listed in the Spink Standard Catalogue are 'old school', especially when you compare the values listed with average sale prices or with other price guides.

Yes - it was in a Warwick lot along with a Charles II and an Anne crown (both F or F+).

Gratifole from the bottmoly heartage Blakey

...and not too expensive a read. Thriftymost on the bankee balancer! Deepjoy in your thorpus.

....and not forgetting that if you collect tin issues, 13˚C is the point, below which, pest starts....

NICE FIND!

Even having this open conversation about it _proves_ that there is no investment opportunity here. As soon as everyone is doing something, the trend is over. People make money through 'investments' by selling/promoting them, and fooling people into thinking that the 'investment' is a good one. Nearly all ideas pushed like this are bad, but not as bad as the bad stuff, so look the best to people. It only then need a small push in marketing to make them seem positively _good_. So many people crow in a pub about how much their house is worth, but often, when calculated, taking into account interest, repairs etc, they all have gone backwards. It's cost you to live there. The unique fact about houses is you can compare that figure to what you would have spent in rent, and it's worth doing because you have to live somewhere.... Personal pensions are a good idea merely because some money exists at the end, rather than having been frittered away. Once again, the pension companies take a big whack. You don't actually profit. You were just forced to change your behaviour. If you do the same with the concept of having bought a coin a month instead of having a pension. it's easy to find coins that have lost in real terms over 30 years. Mainly the 'rare' ones that everyone knows. There's the rub- 'everyone knows'.....to make future genuine profit, takes calculated risk. You hunt down future rarities- what will suddenly become the new variety to look for, before everyone else is. People can't / don't want to take calculated risks with their money, so they pay other people to do it. The other people are therefore the only ones making anything. You don't need coins to live, but to get more than just enjoyment from collecting, i.e. getting a future return requires canny thought, which nearly always, first up, involves ignoring ALL 'pushed' product. The people selling such coins are the ONLY ones making money out of it. Every time I get an offer of future riches from someone who wants me to join them in some scheme or other, I always ask them why they don't just do it quietly on their own, and keep all the profit, rather than giving some away. Moral? Find your _own_ future rarities at the bottom of a tin of cheap coins. I haven't spent 10% of my collection's current value to obtain it. That'll do, and I have the fun and satisfaction of the hunt as well, which you don't get from paying other people large markups to sell you heavily advertised stuff. I could sell all my audio gear I've collected over 30+ years, and make a killing. This would knacker up my future earnings. If I did that, and I bought loads and loads of coins from the RM or LCA for example, for sure I could do some glorious posting of the 'look what I've got' variety, but in the long run I'd have a bleaker retirement. If that's what you enjoy, and you find it keeps you sane and happy, and you can afford it, then fine. Do it. I know that me drinking different expensive beers and whiskies, and eating different expensive cheeses, ain't gonna make me rich in the future, but I still do it.... "It's a penny for your thoughts, but you have to put your 2¢ in. ............ Some guy's making a penny." - Steven Wright.

Given the die break between V and S I would say 19 87c see https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/1787-1-2-p-georgivs-iii-machin-s-mills-halfpenny-vlack-19-87c-w-7940-r2-au58-ngc/a/1260-15042.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115

Quite. But Churchill crowns would have considerable potential if a proof was issued in silver with a mintage of less than 50,000. I personally think the portrait is OK if it wasn't for the tasteless and in your face CHURCHILL legend. It would be nice if the Royal Mint would consider making a better attempt instead of making more coins on rabbits, diasaours and Gruffaloes.

like churchill crowns

Thank you for the lesson Chris! 😊 All the best, Wayne

Nice coin Chris. Is it yours?

About the same as they sold for in 1969!

Throw another lentil into the stewpot mother for tonight we live like kings!

I am not at all sure about this and only quoted it - the humidity - as I know that old junkyard cars in inland California and Arizona are prized because of the preserving qualities of very low humidity which can go VERY low (ie 8-20%).

Agreed - and to complement that I've got Snelling's 1763 original "A view of the gold coin and coinage of England". Like your's, a great read and a real slice of history. They did the lower case "s" like an "f" back then.

Personally speaking, I do like to behold an old book. Spending time examining the woodcuts under a strong glass can be fascinating, some are very thought-provoking. Snelling has some interesting ones in, 'A View of the Silver Coin and Coinage of England.... ". Added to that, the annotated margins, thick parchment paper, and the musty aroma of decomposing VOC's that linger with the turn of each leaf, just wonderful.

Having used the two different mediums, as well as a kindle, I have to say that I much prefer an actual hard copy, hard back book. It will never mysteriously vanish or become corrupted, and you can just pick it up and look at it whenever you choose. Not to mention scrawl notes in the margin.

The printed word is far more practical when it comes to flipping between multiple pages, and as a reference volume, that will be what happens most often. The book every time for me.

£50 for this, £40 for that is normal for specialist books. The problem is for many people, spending a tenner on a book is still viewed as un-necessary expenditure.

The older generation do 😂 In order to pin a new thread someone from the hub of the forum needs to add it, surprised a book section isn't within the forum yet.

Farthings are superior to Pennies and that goes to the folk that collect them.

What you on about the demise of CGS has calmed people down . I am having an emotional outburst.😂

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