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But this date clearly didn't enter circulation. Perhaps the term business strike is a better one. In other words coins struck in quantity for circuation, not struck for testing or trial purposes that never got to mass production. For the same reason, I don't regard the 1945 silver threepence to be something I would collect, nor the Edward VIII coins of 1936. As much as anything my lack of interest stems from the lack of material, plus the lack of funds on the scale needed to buy them. For me all these kinds of coins are interesting curiosities that help define the history of numismatics and the nation, but nothing more.

The only way to deal with it (hopefully) without making a 2.2 billion bid, he's also not accepting questions on the item, wonder why not Clearly using his wording as the binding contract

Agreed. The £1400 coin only Good Fine? Nah.

I'd say that was London Coins being excessively cautious. If I were a seller, I'd say "Bold F/NVF"

Yes, same seller who has the replica sixpence listed. I've reported both.

hes a FOOTBALLER they spend their money on pu**y and cars dont they?

No eye deception, Peck. It's definitely another 1907 !

at the turn of the year ,the 2009 sets were going for nearer the £300 mark .I sold mine a few weeks ago for £215 ,which was still a decent mark up from the £39.95 I paid RM for it .The prices are dropping slowly , but the demand still seems to be there .I agree that new collectors don't seem to be able to see past the modern shiny commemorative coins .I am admin on a coin group on FB ,and have had a few discussions with so called experts about the investment value and so called rarity of the decimal commemoratives .I cant possibly see how a kew gardens 50p ,of which all are still available and 99% are in high grade can maintain a £65-75 price .Especially when the 1992 EEC 50p with half the mintage and a large percentage have been withdrawn from circulation are only selling for £55 .

Indeed. Although it is slightly comforting to know that not even vast wealth can obtain privately held extreme rarities, if the current owner isn't willing to sell.

1991 Pete.

They're genuine.

Laughable if it wasn't so immoral.....that and the tax evasion as well, oh, and signing on fees, merchandising, goals, assists, wins etc etc

Isn't that one reason why guineas were used for certain things, rather than pounds, even after they were taken off circulation? 'Certain things' being auctions, architect's or lawyer wages I.e Non-every day's stuff

Nice one. I hadn't noticed that comment.

His description: 'coin exactly as it is in the picture - willing to take offers' Clearly, he knows it is a replica but has avoided saying so. Replica isn't mentioned in the listing either but 'SILVER coin' is. I suppose the daft bugger who has bid £28 could legitimately return it being 'not as described' when he sees it isn't silver after all.

Yes, that London Coins 1905 sold for £800 - and another (which they described as Good Fine, but which to my eyes is minimum VF) sold for £1400 ! As Michael says, collectors are more savvy than to take auction grades at face value.

Hi Declan, Its about half way down this page: http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=Halfcrown+1905+Fine&searchtype=1 Peck is right IMHO, their grading can be over cautious at times. Comparing book value with hammer price realised for some of these half crowns suggests bidders also considered grades assigned were lower than they should have been. I think your 1905 is hovering around the near fine mark. Considering you bought the full set for £660 you did well.

Haha, i hope he emptied the rubble as it will cost him a fortune in postage!!

Whereas the eBay description is just rubble!

Very nice find Stuart and much better quality tham the one i found. I think the one i found came from further afield than London by the nick of it....maybe Hong Kong!! I,m not going to embarrass myself by putting on a picture though!!

It worked!! Thank you. You should mb start a new forum on computer skills!! Much appreciated.

Actually just looking at this again, I slightly misled you there. It actually begins "https" - that bit must be included, or the link won't work. Apologies.

he has relisted saying that he has been told by another ebayer that it is a repro .Might have been an honest mistake after all.

There is no way I would grade that 1904 HC as Fine from those pics, I think all the lettering should be visible for Fine? And it should be irrelevant how rare the coin is. Happy to be contradicted ...

Derek's a bit more forgiving in his book though:

Yes, I don't think the 1905 you bought is fully fine either, but I don't think you did all that bad for the lot as a whole, it depends what grade you want as 'keepers'

Bit short of Fine as Michael says, but I'd be quite happy with that.

If compared with the attached, which was graded as Fine by LCA, I would suggest your 1905 is nearer VG?

My latest Cinque Port (pronounced Sink Port apparently) Conder token, just Hastings needed to complete the main 5, arriving later this week but not as high a grade ... Question for other Conder token collectors on here - I use the following sellers to source my tokens, any others I should be looking at? ABC coins and tokens (David Stuart) Baldwins (of St James) John Newman (johnnyqc on eBay) Druids Revenge (eBay Seller)

At least the one your really wanted is ok, you can always upgrade the others

One good thing of quadrum capsules like the ones in Sword's photo (I have the same box) is that you can combine coins of very different sizes in the same tray, which makes it ideal if you collect many different denominations. There is also the possibility of inserting them in albums if the box is too cumbersome:

So many seem either unavailable or just out of reach for me. I suppose patience is the key. Given that a 1933 made the equivalent of £151k last year, I can see the 1954 fetching a lot more than £60k - 1933 penny at 2016 auction

I did abit in the past. Nothing recently though , my permissions gone. Shame about your shilling. I suppose the further you get from London the more beat up a hammered must be if it was minted at the tower. Your shilling must of passed through alot of hands before it entered the ground. My sixpence was wedged between some cobbles that where buried about 9 inches down, seemed to have preserved it well. Old cobble road i presume it was.

I only have a small collection which grows by 2 or 3 coins per year. Quadrum suits me perfectly as there is no movement. I house my quadrums in a three-tray lighthouse wooden box which cost ca £50. I have another which houses slabs rather than quadrums. If I have a larger collection, than a cabinet would be more sensible as having a number of these boxes would take up too much space.

Thanks Chumlee

Thanks Pete. That's this one, which I bought in 2008.

A punt on this 1841 halfpenny, I'm grading GEF from the seller's pics, opinions welcome

you'll be amazed how some coins come out the soil, you will know if you detect, roman silver can come out covered in a thick layer making them look like a cruddy bronze, this Julia Domna denny took me hours of cleaning, shame it has a chunk missing, shame i didnt get a before pic either doh

The last digit was punched in by hand, so this can vary in distancce from the third number. It is the widest I have seen to date. any further right and it could fall off the edge of the earth.