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[PWA 1967]

This is what i was trying to explain ,using pecks picture and Terrys to try and show the difference ,which although maybe the light and picture i am still not sure 😀.

[Peckris 2]

It's the difference between a strictly UNC example and - e.g. - GEF; the waves start to merge with the exergue line rather quick. Here's an AUNC 1939 reverse and you will see that the waves are still a bit distinct from the line. On Type 2 reverses there is a distinct gap between the upper line and the waves.

Also, I believe that  the so-called 'single exergue line' is actually 2 lines so close together that they appear to be one? Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Peckris 2

[secret santa]

The waves are well above the double line variety.

[PWA 1967]

This picture that Terry put on a few years ago shows the difference well.

The single has no line /s below other than the one thick one ,these are as in Richards picture the double.

Compare the third picture with the top two.

Regardless of wear they are easy to spot when you have seen a couple ,obviously even more so in hand 👍.

Edited November 7, 2023 by PWA 1967

[Peckris 2]

Peck says of the first reverse that the exergue line is "faintly single" and of the second that it's "distinctly double". He doesn't go on to explain this further, but the implication is that the single line isn't clearly single, but - as others (I believe) have said - consists of two lines so close together that they appear (especially on less than perfect condition) to be a single line. I'm not sure what condition the 4th penny above is in but it MAY illustrate this 'grey area'?

My penny is all but BU so if it is the second reverse, the double lines would be absolutely clear - they're not!

[PWA 1967]

A rare 1896 Very wide date and eight years looking at thousands to find a really good one.

Gouby BP1896Ad ,NGC MS65 not attributed.

 

[Kipster]

8 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

A rare 1896 Very wide date and eight years looking at thousands to find a really good one.

Gouby BP1896Ad ,NGC MS65 not attributed.

 

Very nicely done. I was bidding on that as well and you pipped me to it. 👍

[secret santa]

Spink's Coins of England 2024 has finally included my proposed penny additions of 1847 Medusa, 1858 Large Rose (although they have mysteriously duplicated the entry), 1862 over 1, 1862 VIGTORIA and 1863 open 3.

[oldcopper]

1 hour ago, secret santa said:

Spink's Coins of England 2024 has finally included my proposed penny additions of 1847 Medusa, 1858 Large Rose (although they have mysteriously duplicated the entry), 1862 over 1, 1862 VIGTORIA and 1863 open 3.

Do you know their pricing for the Medusa? 

[secret santa]

36 minutes ago, oldcopper said:

Do you know their pricing for the Medusa? 

Just noted as "extremely rare" with no valuations.

[oldcopper]

2 hours ago, secret santa said:

Just noted as "extremely rare" with no valuations.

Thanks -  at least it's there. You probably saw this but Spink missed one a few weeks ago in a 3 coin lot - the bidders didn't - it went for £2800 hammer.

[secret santa]

23 minutes ago, oldcopper said:

You probably saw this but Spink missed one a few weeks ago in a 3 coin lot - the bidders didn't - it went for £2800 hammer.

Yes, I added it to my rarest pennies site.

[Coinery]

2 hours ago, secret santa said:

Yes, I added it to my rarest pennies site.

Quick question re this point. I ask because I’m compiling a catalogue of the Elizabeth I anchor shillings, and would ultimately want to put it out there! 

What do you do re gathering photos from the net, as it’s sometimes near impossible to track the source or get permission from the original photographer?

[Peckris 2]

25 minutes ago, Coinery said:

Quick question re this point. I ask because I’m compiling a catalogue of the Elizabeth I anchor shillings, and would ultimately want to put it out there! 

What do you do re gathering photos from the net, as it’s sometimes near impossible to track the source or get permission from the original photographer?

You could try the following:

1. reduce the size of the image

2. add a colour cast (e.g. sepia) to make it look different

3. acknowledge the website where you got it from (if 'Contact us' has failed)

[Coinery]

8 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

You could try the following:

1. reduce the size of the image

2. add a colour cast (e.g. sepia) to make it look different

3. acknowledge the website where you got it from (if 'Contact us' has failed)

I don’t want to derail the thread here too much, but thanks for that, some good approaches…it would be impossible otherwise! 

[secret santa]

13 hours ago, Coinery said:

What do you do re gathering photos from the net, as it’s sometimes near impossible to track the source or get permission from the original photographer?

As Peckris says, acknowledge the source out of politeness. I'm sure that most sites realise that their images can and will be downloaded.

And for those that can't, I screenshot the webpage, paste it into a Word document and then save the image as a jpeg file where it can be cropped with something like Adobe Photoshop.

[Paddy]

9 minutes ago, secret santa said:

As Peckris says, acknowledge the source out of politeness. I'm sure that most sites realise that their images can and will be downloaded.

And for those that can't, I screenshot the webpage, paste it into a Word document and then save the image as a jpeg file where it can be cropped with something like Adobe Photoshop.

You can also do a selective screenshot of just the image. See the tip I posted under useful tips in the technical section on here.

Saves a lot of faffing around.

 

[Paddy]

https://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/13698-useful-tips-on-windows-for-coin-people/

This is the link to the suggestion

[Peckris 2]

12 hours ago, Paddy said:

https://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/13698-useful-tips-on-windows-for-coin-people/

This is the link to the suggestion

On a Mac, press Cmd-Shift-4 then draw a rectangle around the part of the screen you want to capture.

[PWA 1967]

On 11/8/2023 at 9:11 PM, PWA 1967 said:

A rare 1896 Very wide date and eight years looking at thousands to find a really good one.

Gouby BP1896Ad ,NGC MS65 not attributed.

 

Just an update on this coin and the 1854/3 that i purchased off eBay from America.

I was charged the 20% on both and as i have numerous times before posted the relevant details and form etc to Border force.

One thing that has changed is previously they have always posted me a cheque ,although today received a letter asking me for my bank details to pay me.

Only takes a few minutes and if your charged to much ,why let them keep it.

[terrysoldpennies]

1940 Narrow date penny.

This date width penny has been mentioned by me on here before, but I did not give any indication as to just how rare I thought it might be.  When I found the first one some ten years ago I had no idea just how rare they would turn out to be, with just four turning up in all that time.   I know that this 1940 type penny will not be considered one of the greatest discoveries of all time, but I think it will be of interest to the large number of 20th century collectors out there,   It is rare, if not ex rare, and with there being very few rare 20th century types to collect it is really one to find and get into the collection.

Below are the four types I have found,  the one at the top being the rare narrow date.    Note that the 0 in the date is centered directly over the tooth, but with all other types its to the right partially or directly over the gap between the teeth.     Interestingly three of the four I have seen were for sale in the USA , was this a batch made by the Royal Mint and distributed to the American Army during the second world war ?

My lucky fined uncirculated example also below.

[PWA 1967]

I have never looked before Terry and thank you for bringing them to our attention.

I have just had a quick look on American eBay and the first few i have looked at a couple appear to be the narrow one.

Am i missing something and wrong or are they the right type ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204589827335 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126257870145 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2024 by PWA 1967

[Coinery]

6 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

I have never looked before Terry and thank you for bringing them to our attention.

I have just had a quick look on American eBay and the first few i have looked at a couple appear to be the narrow one.

Am i missing something and wrong or are they the right type ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204589827335 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126257870145 

 

 

They’re definitely the ones, interesting.

[terrysoldpennies]

7 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

I have never looked before Terry and thank you for bringing them to our attention.

I have just had a quick look on American eBay and the first few i have looked at a couple appear to be the narrow one.

Am i missing something and wrong or are they the right type ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204589827335 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126257870145 

 

 

Yes your right Pete ,sods law that two should turn up at the same time !  Why in the USA  ?

[PWA 1967]

The best narrow date i found ,which is photographed in a flip.