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[mick1271]

Checked my 1902 LT and it was straight bottomed , but had a search in my spares box and found another 2 .One straight and one wavy . 

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, mick1271 said:

Checked my 1902 LT and it was straight bottomed , but had a search in my spares box and found another 2 .One straight and one wavy . 

Both mine are straight.

[secret santa]

9 hours ago, mick1271 said:

One straight and one wavy . 

Could you post a photo of the wavy one please.

[jelida]

13 minutes ago, secret santa said:

Could you post a photo of the wavy one please.

I was hoping someone would ask that. Both of mine are straight, I think.

Jerry

[RLC35]

4 hours ago, jelida said:

I was hoping someone would ask that. Both of mine are straight, I think.

Jerry

I checked 6 coins that I have, they are all straight!

 

[mick1271]

11 hours ago, secret santa said:

Could you post a photo of the wavy one please.

top one is my straight one . bottom is the wavy one .It looks wavy with a loupe , but magnified more ,it has a narrower top part and it looks like the wavy part is caused by the number being more chamfered at the bottom .

[alfnail]

On 7/24/2020 at 9:13 AM, secret santa said:

Any idea of the ratio of 1856 PT small and large dates, Ian ?

Ok, I have done this now Richard. It actually wasn't as easy as I thought it would be, but I'm pleased that you asked me for this information because I was a little surprised at the results. I had always thought that there were definitely more of the 'Large Numeral' type than the 'Small Numeral' type, but it turns out they were pretty close. I spent about 3 hours zooming in on all the images, and then double checked I had sorted correctly, Any that I was unsure about I did not include in the figures; some ebay pictures are not great!

Anyway, 138 over 5 years split as follows:-  21 Could Not Tell / 55 Small Numerals / 62 Large Numerals.

Hope that's useful for some members.

 

[secret santa]

54 minutes ago, alfnail said:

Hope that's useful for some members.

Great info, Ian - thanks. 

[secret santa]

On 7/26/2020 at 2:27 PM, 1949threepence said:

One straight and one wavy . 

Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples.

[Paddy]

59 minutes ago, secret santa said:

Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples.

You got my one from earlier in this thread?

 

[terrysoldpennies]

1 hour ago, secret santa said:

Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples.

I'm not sure is this a wavy 2   ??

[blakeyboy]

I've got 6 stacked up- all so similar- maybe there is one that has the base slightly incuse, but one is much sharper and pointed like Terry's above, and there are different widths, and some with the 2 leaning to the right...that one of Terry's leans to the left....all tiny changes, nothing major.

 

 

 

[1949threepence]

2 hours ago, Paddy said:

You got my one from earlier in this thread?

 

....and quite apart from that, it's actually a very nice coin with a lot of eye appeal.....

[1949threepence]

I'm wondering if this is actually some sort of optical illusion arising from other features of the 2 - when I hold something over the rest of the 2 on the one's touted as possible wavy line examples above, the base of the 2 appears dead straight. 

[secret santa]

Yes, I'm not yet convinced.

[Peckris 2]

4 minutes ago, secret santa said:

Yes, I'm not yet convinced.

Nor me. Without more evidence I'd have to conclude that this is a case of someone seeing what they want to see, or making something out of nothing.

[blakeyboy]

It does smack of  a slightly mis-aligned 2 over 2...

[VickySilver]

LOL, that is my take on many "types" - when is enough clear variance enough to make it a type? IMO many of the "dot" varietals are somewhat in the category of this one.

[Paddy]

Well this one just gave me a jump! Sorting through an old dealer's box of random coins marked at 50p each (I bought the box of 100+ coins for £5) I was stopped in my tracks by this one. Obviously a fake, but not bad as they go and should give some good banter in the market!

 

[secret santa]

Great example !

[1949threepence]

38 minutes ago, Paddy said:

Well this one just gave me a jump! Sorting through an old dealer's box of random coins marked at 50p each (I bought the box of 100+ coins for £5) I was stopped in my tracks by this one. Obviously a fake, but not bad as they go and should give some good banter in the market!

 

The obverse is very real looking.

[mrbadexample]

1 minute ago, 1949threepence said:

The obverse is very real looking.

I don't think it's legit though, that 9 on the reverse looks iffy. 

[Peckris 2]

3 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

The obverse is very real looking.

It IS real. It's an altered date, but a very nice example.

[1949threepence]

58 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

It IS real. It's an altered date, but a very nice example.

I know Chris. I was being a bit tongue in cheek. 

But yes, you're right, it is a very good example. Quite convincing.

[Cliff]

On 7/28/2020 at 8:22 AM, blakeyboy said:

It does smack of  a slightly mis-aligned 2 over 2...

AardHawk made a posting Apr 2008 in which he drew attention to a Sept 1976 Coin Monthly article, "Further Varieties of the 1902 Penny" by A R Alexander and A M Lisk. Whilst the article does not specifically mention "wavy 2s",  it does go into some depth regarding Shape of 2 and pointings, suggesting at least 13 varieties. Worth a look and a consideration I think.