Ebay's Worst Offerings

[Rob]

2 hours ago, blakeyboy said:

Doesn't this guy have a 'history' on this forum?

He seems to be attracting those who get excited and click 'buy it now' without reading the 'disclaimer' at the bottom.....https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bare-Head-of-King-George-V-Britannia-Fourth-Design-Penny-1926-Coin/163675196264?hash=item261bcd4b68:g:KIkAAOSwJxtczCU4

 

1 hour ago, Sword said:

Yes, "his" address "Moussaieff Hilton , 22 Park lane" rings a bell. 

Same address but I'm certain it's a different name. It rings no bells at all, so possibly neither name is/was correct. However, if it is a room used by hotel porters living in, then any name could appear.

[will1976]

36 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said:

Nice one Will.

Sadly my offer has been declined, not even the rambling story I was hoping for!

[Sword]

10 hours ago, Rob said:

Same address but I'm certain it's a different name. It rings no bells at all, so possibly neither name is/was correct. However, if it is a room used by hotel porters living in, then any name could appear.

It is the same person that was trying to sell a replica 1888 crown.

http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/2829-ebays-worst-offerings/?page=291&tab=comments#comment-159514

The locations of his items used to be China and Hong Kong. Now it is "multiple locations" in the UK.  

I don't believe the address he gave (for the very expensive jewelers Moussaieff) could possibly be his real address.

 

[Sword]

11 hours ago, Michael-Roo said:

Didn't any of those bidding on the his repro bother to take a look at her other listings? If they do so since leaving their bids seeing a second has been added will surely set alarm bells ringing even for the most naive of buyers.

It's up to £1410 now. 

Six bidders so far. Five have 100% activity with her and made bids on 14 of her items. Three have feedbacks of 0, 0 and 1 and so all look like doggy bids.

The Sixth bidder has a feedback of 201 but he has bidded on 195 items in the last 30 days. Doesn't look very promising either. 

So I don't think any one legit has fallen for it yet.

[secret santa]

A rare chance to get a beautiful proof 1863 penny for £1

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-1-Penny-1863-Proof-AEF/333185317437?hash=item4d93647a3d:g:PEoAAOSwrZFc0F9P

[Sword]

3 hours ago, secret santa said:

A rare chance to get a beautiful proof 1863 penny for £1

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-1-Penny-1863-Proof-AEF/333185317437?hash=item4d93647a3d:g:PEoAAOSwrZFc0F9P

I was about to say it might be just an honest mistake. Then I spotted this coin he is selling described as "Beautiful Toned Proof"

Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder ...

[Paddy]

Well either he is watching this forum (welcome by the way!) or someone has messaged him as the "Toned Proof" claim has gone. Now described simply as AEF - still an overgrade but a bit closer.

[Peckris 2]

7 hours ago, Paddy said:

Well either he is watching this forum (welcome by the way!) or someone has messaged him as the "Toned Proof" claim has gone. Now described simply as AEF - still an overgrade but a bit closer.

I don't see "proof" anywhere in the description. Still, a quid for a VF 1863 penny is still worth it.

[jelida]

Ah, but it is back......

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-1-Penny-1863-Genuine-Proof-Grade-EF/233219981496?hash=item364cfe80b8:g:SsgAAOSwajRc0YoC

Jerry

[Peckris 2]

53 minutes ago, jelida said:

Ah, but it is back......

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-1-Penny-1863-Genuine-Proof-Grade-EF/233219981496?hash=item364cfe80b8:g:SsgAAOSwajRc0YoC

Jerry

Different penny. That one IS EF. But not a proof! 

[Michael-Roo]

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-WW-SOLID-SILVER-PLAIN-EDGE-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-MY-GRADE-E-F/123750447136

[azda]

49 minutes ago, Michael-Roo said:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-WW-SOLID-SILVER-PLAIN-EDGE-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-MY-GRADE-E-F/123750447136

She seems to have a lot of these, wasn’t she the one who sold another about 2 months back? Also has another listed

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V5-1847-MDCCCXLVIl-RARE-SOLID-SILVER-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-UNDECIMO-/123759242419?nav=SEARCH

Edited May 9, 2019 by azda

[Michael-Roo]

41 minutes ago, azda said:

She seems to have a lot of these, wasn’t she the one who sold another about 2 months back? Also has another listed

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V5-1847-MDCCCXLVIl-RARE-SOLID-SILVER-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-CROWN-UNDECIMO-/123759242419?nav=SEARCH

It's the same repro coin, which she bought from Ebayer mycopau for £1 last December. She failed to get the money for it that time and since then, I'm told, has had another stab at artificially toning it. Ebay are onto her (thanks to Pete and others) and I doubt she'll get the money this time either. The other, with the reddish artificial toning, was originally on as a BIN but was taken down and has since reappeared as an auction listing. If you look at her feedback as a buyer you'll notice a seller of repro coins appears second on the list immediately below mycopau's comment.

[Michael-Roo]

1847 WW .SOLID SILVER PLAIN EDGE VICTORIA GOTHIC CROWN MY GRADE E.F

The artificially toned coin is the one being auctioned by marlybob1 on Ebay.

The bright coin is the repro, honestly described as such, which mycopau sold to her for £1 last December.

 

[hibernianscribe]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303147474271?ul_noapp=true

This in my view is an appalling example of coin-grading and a classic illustration of why a grading-system designed for milled coins cannot be fairly-applied to hammered coins with any wear on them, not to mention clipping! Furthermore, even applying US criteria for milled coins, AU55 should be for a coin showing full detail with light wear and a significant amount of remaining lustre, I cannot see how NGC evaluated this at such a grading. Where are they coming from??

Frank

Edited May 9, 2019 by hibernianscribe

[Michael-Roo]

1 hour ago, hibernianscribe said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303147474271?ul_noapp=true

This in my view is an appalling example of coin-grading and a classic illustration of why a grading-system designed for milled coins cannot be fairly-applied to hammered coins with any wear on them, not to mention clipping! Furthermore, even applying US criteria for milled coins, AU55 should be for a coin showing full detail with light wear and a significant amount of remaining lustre, I cannot see how NGC evaluated this at such a grading. Where are they coming from??

Frank

Viewing this one I couldn't help but notice a couple of others which appeared on the same page.

The seller goes by the name of 'highrating-lowprice'.  There's loads of it, scrap grade silver coins at ridiculous asking prices and bullion sovs at more than four times their value. They have a 20450 feedback rating of 100%. Who's buying this tat????

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Great-Britain-UK-United-Kingdom-SILVER-SHILLING-Coin-King-George-V-i71624/352526940507?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D58205%26meid%3D4f4f675b8ce548f5ac266d3bb4a86df3%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D312541682304%26itm%3D352526940507&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-UK-Great-Britain-United-Kingdom-KING-GEORGE-V-Silver-Shilling-Coin-i56707/322193503218?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D58205%26meid%3D833898e2497345c29d7643978f26f8b0%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352526940507%26itm%3D322193503218&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-United-Kingdom-Great-Britain-GEORGE-V-Silver-Florin-2-Shillings-Coin-i69902/352513397686?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D62b1ce54af7a4ee29a1efbfd7e00f8ed%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D351779376843%26itm%3D352513397686&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

https://www.ebay.com/sch/UK-Great-Britain/3394/m.html?item=352513397686&_ssn=highrating_lowprice

 

[Rob]

1 hour ago, hibernianscribe said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303147474271?ul_noapp=true

This in my view is an appalling example of coin-grading and a classic illustration of why a grading-system designed for milled coins cannot be fairly-applied to hammered coins with any wear on them, not to mention clipping! Furthermore, even applying US criteria for milled coins, AU55 should be for a coin showing full detail with light wear and a significant amount of remaining lustre, I cannot see how NGC evaluated this at such a grading. Where are they coming from??

Frank

Given the lack of wear evident, the AU55 is probably about right for US grading. I guess they try to be consistent. What they struggle with is eye appeal, which is a major component of hammered coins. It isn't clipped, or at least is unlikely to be so given the weight of 5.97g. The problem with hammered is that you can get a coin that is mint state, flat, but as struck. This isn't an issue for people who collect by numbers.

[jelida]

1 hour ago, Michael-Roo said:

Viewing this one I couldn't help but notice a couple of others which appeared on the same page.

The seller goes by the name of 'highrating-lowprice'.  There's loads of it, scrap grade silver coins at ridiculous asking prices and bullion sovs at more than four times their value. They have a 20450 feedback rating of 100%. Who's buying this tat????

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Great-Britain-UK-United-Kingdom-SILVER-SHILLING-Coin-King-George-V-i71624/352526940507?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D58205%26meid%3D4f4f675b8ce548f5ac266d3bb4a86df3%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D312541682304%26itm%3D352526940507&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-UK-Great-Britain-United-Kingdom-KING-GEORGE-V-Silver-Shilling-Coin-i56707/322193503218?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D58205%26meid%3D833898e2497345c29d7643978f26f8b0%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352526940507%26itm%3D322193503218&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-United-Kingdom-Great-Britain-GEORGE-V-Silver-Florin-2-Shillings-Coin-i69902/352513397686?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D62b1ce54af7a4ee29a1efbfd7e00f8ed%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D351779376843%26itm%3D352513397686&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

https://www.ebay.com/sch/UK-Great-Britain/3394/m.html?item=352513397686&_ssn=highrating_lowprice

 

Buying it themselves, possibly. This coin,    https://www.ebay.com/itm/KREMNA-in-PISIDIA-Authentic-Ancient-Amyntas-Galatia-King-Greek-Coin-ZEUS-i77184-/233193738940?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

sold and feedback received, is for sale again 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KREMNA-in-PISIDIA-Authentic-Ancient-Amyntas-Galatia-King-Greek-Coin-ZEUS-i77184/352659299993?item=352659299993&pageci=eb59148d-ed8e-4fb0-b683-4b9f13f596bb&redirect=mobile

so all is not as it seems.

Jerry

[Pavel]

This guy always has these rare Australian crowns...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Australian-1938-KGVI-Caseys-Cartwheel-Crown/303148406811

I bought one (gave him the benefit of the doubt, and the photo was blurry so not immediately obvious as fake). Wasn't even silver. He refunded immediately and sent me a note that he was "horrified" to learn it was fake; he bought a bucketload of them apparently "from a garage sale" (Aliexpress, rather?), and is still selling them.

ps has other accounts too, with the same coin descriptions, but always with new photos.

Edited May 10, 2019 by Pavel

[craigy]

look at this, never heard so much crap lol     mother natures finest

Seller Notes:	“This coin shows you what can happen when Mother Nature does it's work and reinforces the slogan of "all that glitters is NOT gold"! The toning quality is VERY high end. This is a super nice piece. It is totally fresh to the market having been graded earlier this year and purchased by us a few weeks ago! The coin clearly was a stunning canvas for Mother Nature to do some incredible work.”

[Paddy]

... and if you were any doubt about the falseness of the toning, have a look at how many other exorbitantly coloured examples of very ordinary cheap coins he has for sale!

 

[Diaconis]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163677710506?ul_noapp=true

£215, 3 hours to go and he even says it's a 'restrike' which it's not.

[jelida]

4 minutes ago, Diaconis said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163677710506?ul_noapp=true

£215, 3 hours to go and he even says it's a 'restrike' which it's not.

I have no sympathy for the bidders in this case. The vendor, if a little clumsily, does make it clear that this is a base metal gap-filler.  People really must read the descriptions.  I doubt they will get their money back in this case.

Jerry

 

[Michael-Roo]

On 29 April 2019 at 7:35 PM, Sword said:

She has ended the sale by saying there is "an error" in the listing

But she has now put it on auction: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123750447136?_trksid=p2471758.m4704

The 3 bids so far could be shill bids are the bidders have 100% activity with the seller.

If you google marlybob1, the predecimal site comes up as the fourth result on the first page and so people can see this discussion. This should help anyone thinking about bidding. 

Interesting:

The gothic crown with the weird fake red toning now has a couple of bids on it, bids which just happen to be from n***y and m***f. These two played a part in knocking up the price on the previous one. Just a coincidence? 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Michael-Roo

[Michael-Roo]

On 11 May 2019 at 9:21 AM, craigy said:

look at this, never heard so much crap lol     mother natures finest

Seller Notes:	“This coin shows you what can happen when Mother Nature does it's work and reinforces the slogan of "all that glitters is NOT gold"! The toning quality is VERY high end. This is a super nice piece. It is totally fresh to the market having been graded earlier this year and purchased by us a few weeks ago! The coin clearly was a stunning canvas for Mother Nature to do some incredible work.”

Mother nature my arse and, even if it were so, still a £1.50 value coin.