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I'm pleased to share with this 1875H coin I have just purchased. (I think the seller missed the H) 

In your opinion what is the grade please of this coin, my gut feeling is GVF/GVF I'm inexperienced and am a bit lost when it comes to grading.

There is rim damage and a few stains, you can also just some some luster around some of the legends. I know the following is only a basic guide but its difficult for me to be sure how the coins grades.

1) VF-20

We start to see all major line in the hair. The thistle and shamrock decorations starts to appear. Clearly readable but lightly worn legends, illustrations show good detail, rims are clean, but the whole coin shows moderate wear on the high points.

2) EF-40

Hair lines are mostly sharp and distinct except above forehead. The rose, thistle and shamrock decorations are visible. Legends are sharp, illustrations are clear with slight but obvious wear on the high points.

3) AU-50

Hair above forehead are visible and dress details are distinct. Sharp legends and illustrations show only a trace of wear on the highest points. There must be some remaining mint luster."

Note inside the bottom of the Letter O in One the small flat part which does not appear to be damage.

I would be grateful to hear opinions please.

Thanks.

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, absence of uniformity said:

@PWA 1967 I appreciate the input, In the sellers photos I can see a H. Can you not? What is the opinion of others? Thanks

Im going to study the 1875 and 1875 H there must be an identifiable die characteristic unique to the H coins. Lets see.

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FWIW I don’t think it’s an H, just an anomaly of toning and surface metal.

The big issue is, if you’re going to call that an H, you then have to have an explanation for the Triangular shape that’s hovering between the digits?

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I can’t see an H either. I think there may be a blemish in there that the brain may try to interpret as something meaningful, especially if one is looking for it. 
 

Like the image of Jesus in a slice of toast or an alien face on Mars. 

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It could be a filled die but I am not convinced of the presence of an ‘H’. Either way, I would want a clear cut example for my collection rather than one that will likely remain uncertain.

In terms of grade, don’t confuse the UK grading system with the US Sheldon scale; their AU is more akin to our EF and their EF40 is about our VF. The book you need is 

https://coinpublications.com/product/the-standard-guide-to-grading-british-coins/
 

Jerry

Posted
49 minutes ago, secret santa said:

I would say it's an F82. The figure 5 is more upright on the 1875H.

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Thanks, I dont have a clue what I'm talking about hence me posting here about it. 

One thought I had if the 5 is manually added or punched would that account for variation in the position of the 5.  Please see the following image.

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Posted
8 hours ago, absence of uniformity said:

In the sellers photos I can see a H. Can you not? What is the opinion of others?

Definitely NOT an H. As you can see from Secret Santa's post above too, the H if present is smaller than the smudge/toning/anomaly you have where the H would be.  Many times we all wish the presence of something and convince ourselves from a humble picture that a smudge or blob just might be the magic thing!  I myself must have bought over the years half a dozen 1863 pennies with "something" perhaps below the date which just might possibly have been a die number with a fair wind behind. Needless to say of course, none of them were!!

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