Nordle11 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, jacinbox said: That's a bit excessive for a 1934. Did you win it? I'm guessing that lustre is what pushed it that high. Anyone know what lot 2477 went for? Quote
PWA 1967 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, jacinbox said: That's a bit excessive for a 1934. Did you win it? No ,i bid on it though Gary Quote
jelida Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 The 1934 went to a phone bidder, who clearly rated it. It did have quite a lot of lustre, but was quite streaky, perhaps due to uneven exposure to the toning solution during the artificial toning process. The halfpenny was again nice without being exceptional, so at about £300 inc juice was a tad high IMO. My only purchase was an 1886 penny to upgrade my current, nicer in the hand than the pics. The 1918KN with the verdigris made a couple of hundred less than when sold as part of the Elstree collection, despite quite successful removal of the verdigris in the interim. I suspect that sometime in the future it will be sold without the past damage attracting mention. Jerry 1 Quote
jaggy Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 I withdrew my bids by email. I wasn't sure if they would respect that. However, it would appear that at least two of the coins I had planned to bid on are not listed on the results page which suggests that they were not sold. Quote
pokal02 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Splashed out on the 1642 Oxford crown, which although I thought a little worse than the advertised VF is still much better than mine, only 3 to go now to get every crown up to AF-F (1665, 1675 and 1678). 1 Quote
Leo Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 I'm happy, first purchases in LCA. 2 wins out of 3 bids, both within the range I was expecting. Now I'm looking forward to see how they look in hand. I've got the impression that this house grades generously. 2 Quote
jaggy Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 52 minutes ago, Leo said: I'm happy, first purchases in LCA. 2 wins out of 3 bids, both within the range I was expecting. Now I'm looking forward to see how they look in hand. I've got the impression that this house grades generously. Examine them very carefully and especially for hairlines which might suggest cleaning or other damage which was not evident from the photos. Quote
azda Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leo said: I'm happy, first purchases in LCA. 2 wins out of 3 bids, both within the range I was expecting. Now I'm looking forward to see how they look in hand. I've got the impression that this house grades generously. These are the people who graded for CGS, now known as LCGS, strange innit Its probably 1 of the reasons they took 3 months to grade a coin Edited September 5, 2016 by azda Quote
VickySilver Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Yes, unfortunately they have not always been the best of graders in the LCA auctions. Fingers crossed for me as I [hopefully not foolishly] bid on the 1904 half crown - which is one of the vulnerable coins to overgrading and photoplay. Well, readers should post what the actual coins they receive versus the original listing grade & possibly price - although we can look them up. An informal survey of sorts... Quote
Leo Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Quote Well, readers should post what the actual coins they receive versus the original listing grade & possibly price - although we can look them up. An informal survey of sorts... All up for that! I may have overpayed. Rookie after all! Quote
Paulus Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 11 hours ago, VickySilver said: Yes, unfortunately they have not always been the best of graders in the LCA auctions. Fingers crossed for me as I [hopefully not foolishly] bid on the 1904 half crown - which is one of the vulnerable coins to overgrading and photoplay. Well, readers should post what the actual coins they receive versus the original listing grade & possibly price - although we can look them up. An informal survey of sorts... VERY good suggestion ... 1 Quote
Leo Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 OK I will start. A common Edwardian halfcrown in good quality. Described as: Halfcrown 1902 ESC 746 A/UNC with some light contact marks This is LC photo: And this is what I got: My photos are horrible and do not do any justice, the coin does actually hint a start of a lovely golden tone, but one can clearly see Jaggy was damm right about hairlines not being evident from their photos, denoting a scotch-brite-like effect, specially on the obverse. I guess they cover themselves with the 'some contact marks' expression but this is a bit more than 'abrasion marks' on my book. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. I paid £100 plus the tip. Quote
Leo Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) And this is the second one. Same year, same principle, but in this case the beautiful florin. LCA photo: An now my horrendous photograph: This is described as Florin 1902 ESC 919 UNC and attractively toned over underlying lustre, a few minor contact marks barely detract. There are quite a number of abrasion marks on the Monarch's neck and some funny hairlines on the reverse's fields. The tone is beautiful and I'm proud of this purchase - just over £100, which is my psychological boundary at the moment (still a rookie), but I suspect I have gone about 20% over what is expected, lured by the tone. Which is much nicer than that shown on my pics. I would probably be better at it if I wasn't having some wines on the process. Edited September 16, 2016 by Leo Quote
Nonmortuus Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 Not sure if it is the same for everyone but none of your pictures are loading for me. Quote
Paulus Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Nonmortuus said: Not sure if it is the same for everyone but none of your pictures are loading for me. Nor I Quote
Leo Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 OK I have changed the hosting of the photos. Let's see now. Halfcrown A common Edwardian halfcrown in good quality. Described as: Halfcrown 1902 ESC 746 A/UNC with some light contact marks This is LC photo: And this is what I got: My photos are horrible and do not do any justice, the coin does actually hint a start of a lovely golden tone, but one can clearly see Jaggy was damm right about hairlines not being evident from their photos, denoting a scotch-brite-like effect, specially on the obverse. I guess they cover themselves with the 'some contact marks' expression but this is a bit more than 'abrasion marks' on my book. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. I paid £100 plus the tip, for your information. Quote
IanB Posted September 16, 2016 Posted September 16, 2016 The florin has, but not the halfcrown. Quote
azda Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Their photo does a pretty good job of hiding the hairlines and rubbing on the cheek, although your pictures aren't great, you can still see more of the problems on the coin than you could on the Londons picture, i guess when they say hairlines and rubbing then they actually near what they say Quote
Nick Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Regardless of whether their photographic setup is intending to deceive, the fact remains that the photo is not an accurate representation of the subject. Therefore, all of their pictures must be viewed with a healthy dose of scepticism. Given the lack of quality of their pictures, it's even more surprising that they can charge £99 a year just to behold them. Quote
Leo Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Quote it's even more surprising that they can charge £99 a year just to behold them. But the auction photographs are free, aren't they? Quote
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