Paulus Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 As previously, I invite anyone interested to have a stab at predicting what grades CGS will assign to this batch of coins. Or, if you spot any varieties, or possible reasons for rejection, please state them.They are at the Grading Level II stage at the moment.Thanks to anyone who takes part!Coin A - 1899 LXII Crown Coin B - 1707 Half Crown Quote
Paulus Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 Coin C - 1911 Proof Half CrownCoin D - 1911 Proof Florin Quote
Paulus Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 Coin E - 1902 Matt Proof FlorinCoin F - 1736 Shilling Quote
Paulus Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 Coin G - 1911 Proof ShillingCoin H - 1674 Sixpence (last one) Quote
Sword Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 I will have a go but I have never been much good at guessing CGS grades.My last coin took almost two months to move from Level II to Grade available (Encapsulation pending). So I guess we won't be getting the answers soon.1899 crown: CGS 75 (has this been dipped before?)1707 halfcrown: CGS 251911 halfcrown: CGS 881911 florin: CGS 881902 florin: CGS 801736 shilling: CGS 451911 shilling: CGS 851674 sixpence CGS 35 Quote
Peter Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 1899 crown: CGS 801707 halfcrown: CGS 351911 halfcrown: CGS 881911 florin: CGS 881902 florin: CGS 851736 shilling: CGS 451911 shilling: CGS 851674 sixpence CGS 45 You have some cracking coins there Paulus. Quote
Garrett Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Yes nice coins !Particularly like the Anne halfcrown.cheers Quote
copper123 Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 At a quick glance I geta- EF light edge damageb-GF/nvfc-A-unc or uncd-sameE about fdcf-GVFG-uncH-nvf/vf Quote
SWANNY Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ? Quote
azda Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior. Quote
Gary D Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.Yes I'd expect the 1911 to be more toned than that. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Not been about Paul for a few days ,but having sent coins to CGS myself were these part of the same batch ?. Quote
Paulus Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 All in the same batch sent to CGS yes, by far the longest processing time so far, 7 weeks and counting Quote
PWA 1967 Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Only ask as some looked chopped and some just normal backgrounds with different lighting.Just something i am learning and wondered if they were the same batch why they didnt do them all the same ?. Quote
Paulus Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 Only ask as some looked chopped and some just normal backgrounds with different lighting.Just something i am learning and wondered if they were the same batch why they didnt do them all the same ?.That's a good spot Pete, the coins were all submitted at the same time, the only obviously different background for me is for the last 3 coins, why, I have no idea!What do you mean by 'chopped'?I actually think they have done a better-than-normal-for-them job of photographing this batch! Quote
PWA 1967 Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 No expert and just having a guy taking pictures of some of mine in slabs and raw again today.He altered the background of the obv and rev so they were on one picture combined without any difference in background colour.As an example your pictures of A and E of your posts. Quote
SWANNY Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.Yes I'd expect the 1911 to be more toned than that.I would worry about the toning on that proof , I think its a lovely looking coin , but what will CGS think ?I would worry more if it wasn't toned as normally 1911 proofs come toned due to the box they were stored in, normally with a blue interior.Yes I'd expect the 1911 to be more toned than that.As you all know , I now have a thing about toning Quote
Nick Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) That's a good spot Pete, the coins were all submitted at the same time, the only obviously different background for me is for the last 3 coins, why, I have no idea! I suspect that they all used the same background. The appearance of the background is dependent on the colour and reflectivity of the subject, so the duller the coin - the lighter the background will appear. Edited November 22, 2015 by Nick Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Agreed, I found it impossible to photo my gold plated penny and get the same background colour, it just goes instantly black because of the reflectivity. Quote
Nonmortuus Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 1899 crown: CGS 801707 halfcrown: No idea1911 halfcrown: CGS 88 1911 florin: CGS 881902 florin: CGS 821736 shilling: No idea1911 shilling: CGS 821674 sixpence No idea Quote
Paulus Posted December 3, 2015 Author Posted December 3, 2015 The results are in - and no rejects!Some very close / spot-on guessesHere's the grades assigned1899 crown: CGS 70 finest known (dies 2E)1707 halfcrown: CGS 251911 halfcrown: CGS 921911 florin: CGS 851902 florin: CGS 821736 shilling: CGS 40 (new variety M over M in M.B. on reverse)1911 shilling: CGS 911674 sixpence CGS 50 1 Quote
Nordle11 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Did you expect the 1899 to get finest known? A nice surprise if not!! Some cracking grades there. Quote
Peter Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 The results are in - and no rejects!Some very close / spot-on guessesHere's the grades assigned1899 crown: CGS 70 finest known (dies 2E)1707 halfcrown: CGS 251911 halfcrown: CGS 921911 florin: CGS 851902 florin: CGS 821736 shilling: CGS 40 (new variety M over M in M.B. on reverse)1911 shilling: CGS 911674 sixpence CGS 50Nice one.A fantastic little nest egg which you can enjoy. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Hat off paul its good when they come back as you expected them to be graded and better still if graded higher. Quote
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