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So was it one of the forum that got the Gouby X 1911 off Ebay this afternoon. Very nice coin it was too, I know I had put a strong bid in but someone was definately on a mission. I was really hoping no one else had spotted it!!!! Should have known better

There actually are lots of folders available for decimal coinage from £2 right down to 50p. They have been available for quite a number of years and are easily available at a reasonable price. The Olympic 50p set have had numerous folders and at least two official Royal Mint issues. Look up the Great British Coin Hunt !!!

This is all really old news and has been an ongoing arguement for almost 2 years. I still purchase the £20 coins as a collectable, which is what you really have to look at them as. The silver value is probably more like £8 or so but I do like the quality and range that has been produced so far. I can't see me going for the £50 or £100 coins though. The RM are now putting out far to many coins and raising the prices so much that I have also been put off the year sets and the commemoratives. They seem to be going more toward the likes of London Mint. Not a good thing for what used to be one of the most respected Mints in the world. They will eventually sicken off even the most avid collectors.

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took a while but just finished the first box. The trays in them are just for show at the moment. The bottom section takes 3 trays with storrage at the back, will be placing a divider section later. The top hinged section takes 2 trays which I have trimmed down slightly. The whole thing is lined with black felt, including the base of the upper tray to prevent scratching or damage. It has given me a way to utilize the extra trays I already have. The coins will all be housed in caps within the trays. Maybe not to everyones taste but I like it.

Having one of those soap box days Pete.

So LCGS only want to deal with people who have lots of disposable income. £600 min to start dealing with them is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously they do not want to attract the standard coin collector as they deem us as something less and not worth their time. But we can wait till they decide to use a third party so the riff raff can join in, but of course won't be able to look at what we pay for as that is only for the chosen few. How bloody elitist. Surely to make themselves a bigger presence in the market place they should be encouraging as many people to use their services as possible. Not out pricing themselves and fencing themselves off from the normal collector. Surely making themselves more accessible would eventually raise the profile and profits and see them become a much more revered and respected coin standard in the market place. Which could be a fantastic thing for British numismatics. Obviously that is not the case. Thanks All The Peasant Collector

Compared to many on this page I am quite a small time collector not having a large disposable income. However my collection is still quite extensive. I collect raw coinage like thousands of other collectors and house them in capsules. I take care when handling my coins and have learned to recognise grade and eye appeal. I enjoy other peoples input and help with my collecting and am learning continuously, as I am sure I will till I stop collecting or more than likely pass on to my kids. Surely most collectors still collect this way. I enjoyed using the population reports and the information on the CGS website but think the work ethic they have shown, and to me, the disrespect shown toward their customers in the way they have underhandedly pulled the rug out from everyone. LC and CGS were and still are the same people. The fee is in my opinion a ransom to previous customers and a block to many who would have thought of slabbing in the future. I will repeat what has been said above, it is everyone's decision how to spend their money. I just know that £99 to me is a major sum. I don't have to be reassured about grading as feel reasonably confident am happy collecting the old fashioned/ more common way. If I need a second opinion I am also happy to ask others. I certainly can't see how buying raw coinage is harder than encased ones. Except for the inflated prices that often come along with the plastic. Its about buying the coin not what its in. If the worry is dropping them place them in well designed capsules such as Quadrums. Many of the new generation capsules also have anti toning and Verde guarantees. So win win. Just my opinion

Here is my only example of florins of this period a 1916. Please forgive the photo as I am so used to working with Bronze and find silver is a totally different animal to capture correctly. The coin is much nicer in hand.

Have about 7 examples now with 2 half pennies as well. Not one is exactly alike. legends are placed differently, different centres, etc....

Another not so rare one from me. A 1951 Proof Farthing, purchased from my trip to the York fair last month. I just love the colours. The photo really doesn't do it justice

I haven't even looked at any of my QEII pennies yet for any wavy anomolies, etc... last time I did look I found this dot inside the O of ONE on a 1962 Penny.

Hi Lisa, welcome to the forum. It all comes down to condition, although it is safe to say that unless pristine the Elizabeth II coins will be worth very little if anything. If you can put images up I am sure that will enable the forum members to help you further with a reasonable valuation.

Have to say I am totally baffled by this. I have sent a reply to the email stating my shock and feelings about what I see as an insane move. The fee seems more like a ransom as without it surely the coin provenance is questionable. Also the whole point is to grow a business and make it something special. Surely London Coins actions here can only be to have shot themselves in the foot. I only have about 8 CGS Slabbed coins, 2 of which I recieved off Pete (PWA 1967) when I first started on the site and were he helped me getting back into the hobby. With over 200 slabbed coins and the overall uncertainty of what this will meen I am sure Pete along with many others from the forum have much more to worry about than the likes of me. I am hoping that something positive will happen soon and am waiting with bated breath to see the outcome. Fingers crossed for you guys.

You heading to the paper dark side Ian!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pete sure you will find something you like. Half pennies I would definately say was a good way to go. Similar to pennies with some brilliant rarities and variants to boot. I find it great knowing I can cover the same years with all the bronze coinage so have the farthings too. Its been a learning curve for me and loads more to learn which keeps me on my toes. I am also finding that I am now picking up nice silver coins when I come across them at reasonable prices especially the beginning and end of reign coins (probably because they have been hoarded and so are cheaper and better condition). I'm sure you will find something you enjoy and will also manage to fill those missing gaps. As you have told me before you don't have to rush into anything. Always appreciated your advice and help. Cheers Brian

I can see what your saying Jerry, but again harping back to the 1904, just look at the difference in the 4's. There are definately slightly differing numbers being used. I also noted what Scot was saying above. There is definitely variants out there that are overlooked or not taken as seriously as others. I will admit as above that where there has been a larger design change it obviously makes the coin more desirable as a variant, but there are also variants which I think merit more research and acclaim. There must be people who think the same as the price Steve got for his 1904 "4 to a tooth" was a healthy respectable one, taking into consideration the condition, etc....

Thanks Jerry and Matt I would probably agree as I suppose this variant only affects one area of the design, namely the date. The Gouby X being identifiable by 2 points and even the 1909 reverse E which has at least 3 main identifiers. The only rarity in my opinion which debunks this way of thinking is the 1903 Open 3 as this is purely identifiable by the date numeral like the 1904 slanted 4 (4 over bead).

Hi David Yes I have a range of different variations but only one with the "Tilted 4"/"4 to a Bead" variety . There seems to have definately been lots of changes to the type settings for this date. From the coins I have looked at and from what I have read the 4TB is definately the hardest to find, no idea on real actual numbers or true rarity. I supose it is always going to come down to a best educated guess. My big fascination at the moment is what is the difference from this variant to say the 1911 Hollow Neck, etc.. It seems to be very over looked. What makes one variant worth obtaining more than another that seems to me as equally scarce or relevant!!! Brian

I have looked closer at the forum and noted 2 previous posts regarding this variant. One I even commented on. Starting to get old as had forgotten all about them. Still wouldn't mind finding out how actually scarce it is. Anyone any idea's. (Will now go and lay down in a quiet room and take my tablets!!!!) Thanks all

Here is an image of the coin. About level with the one sold in the Copthorne Penny auction. Photos through a flip so appologies for the quality.

Hi All Until the Copthorne auction I had never heard of this variant. I had a bag of about 100 x 1904's and found 1 of this type. Does anyone know how scarce or common this variant actually is? Thanks Brian

Here is the full reverse

I have been looking for a 1967 penny with missing waves below Lighthouse for a while. I have found one, not as dramatic as Richards on his website but the first I have found.

Looked at the 1949 in my own collection and found mine was a "Forked S". Have to say it is one I had missed in David's book. Haven't check my 1950's yet.

Right half way through my fine to AUnc 1958 halfpennies and have found at least 5 different teeth to border variations. I used percentage size of tooth to border ratio and found the following from the first 12 coins : 70% x 1; 75% x 5; 85% x 3; 94% x 1 and 102% x 2 (give or take 1%). I believe the 94% teeth to rim coin to be a Type G and the 102% with teeth larger than rim Type F. I maybe well off but would appreciate any input. There is definitely lots of variation.