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This coin is a normal 1951 and If it was a VIP proof I would want more than a green box and a standard docket that you can buy anywhere. Be interesting over the next few days what this realises. I'll have to dig my greenies out ( sounded different in my head lol). But alas I couldn't do that just not made that way. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1951-VIP-Proof-George-VI-British-Crown-Festival-of-Britain-Boxed/352215027958

I made a slight error in the original post it was the D of IND to gap which is reverse B . Which I am happy to say finally appeared . It was interesting to read that Michael Gouby out of 100 1937 two shillings He had seen 10 reverse B's but not better than fine /F+

Wow very nice. Yeah agreed the really rare issues will always surpass book values. Purely the fact they are so rare and demand outweighs supply for all collectors and I would imagine 98% do not have that variety in their collection. As was the case when we saw record figures for the 1863 Narrow 3 and the 1863 die number 5. I wonder what it would sell for today if it came up at auction?

Well we know there are normal struck 1951 Festival proof coins which are all the ones in Green/burgundy/Blue cases except for the blue box issue which were specifically issued at the festival itself. As for the other two colours perhaps one was for UK and one for overseas?. We have plain edge proof which was struck in error on unedged blanks . I guess they could of been in any of the colour cases? Then there is the VIP proofs with frosted designs (not totally true) VIP proofs also appear with a regular proof finish with a cameo subject against a mirrored field. Also there is a Matt proof version. It just seems strange to me whenever you see these come up at auction there is no mention of "in box of issue with C.O.A" So how do they distinguish Between an early struck standard proof and a VIP proof. Especially against the VIP proof that doesn't have a frosted finish? I left off the two obvious coins as the frosted one we know what that looks like and the matt proof would be just as easily identifiable here are 3 versions of the standard issue versus a non frosted VIP proof. If we were to send in the VIP proof raw would they even recognise it as one?

Afternoon all. Can you tell me. I ask only because It doesn't really match either description unless the pic in spinks is approximate. 1683 Halfcrown it looks more like the third bust but the date doesn't correspond to that bust So it is either 2nd or 4th bust . I am thinking logically it must be 4th bust but the hair along the edge looks different and the II is further from the head as on bust 3. Anyone can tell me which it is? and is it worth £320? thank you Sorry skipped a page was looking at the bloody shillings lol. But value wise still stands

I'll stab at £4000

Hi poly you have to refresh the page if the pic was too big the first time. The page doesn't update itself and thinks you're still trying to post the bigger picture

MS66 really. ??? What am I missing. I know it was a problem year for strikes but it don't look that good. The ear tip is flat and so is the lions nose https://www.ebay.com/itm/GR-BRITAIN-George-V-1917-AR-Sixpence-PCGS-MS66-SCBC-4014-Key-date/172990281429

Wow the difference in prices on ebay.com to our uk version as in the coins we don't see and generally overall is like chalk and cheese. Surely common sense would suggest a slabbed coin price would be market value + W/E it cost to slab the coin and in some cases just market value. How do they think they will sell anything when they price x2 x3 x4 book prices? World full of muppets. Surely they don't think because it says NGC or PCGS that adds some extraordinary intrinsic value to a coin? All that means is you paid someone to verify what you already knew which seems bloody daft on the face of it. I think every penny I looked at and bearing in mind these are MS64RB not MS64RD £400-£900 none are rare. Also why do they affix RB to our coins when it's as obvious as the nose on their face the coin is red full luster. Is it something to do with they have copper we have bronze? I would imagine bronze in any condition the same as copper would be a darker tone? To me it doesn't do justice to many of the coins. There are many shades of red but when you start classifying coins in the RB state that tells me that the coin is on it's way to becoming brown. But you see the coin and there isn't a trace of brown on the coin. What gives?

Is the proof box set issue not George and the Dragon as well? or do you mean on the sleeve cover on top of the box? Must be the green one that has a lid? my burgundy ones are all slide outs

im off to specsavers

B Both have crossbars or as termed in the book inverted A's

The blue were struck at the festival itself. so we can get them out of the way. the other two colours if there were three would mean they were struck at the mint itself for non festival visitors . perhaps the guy meant purple/burgundy. I haven't seen any blue ones?

Just had a scoot about and it has been touted that over 1 million were struck on the spot at the festival. Seems an extremely large amount to me can't be right. However apparently and again I find an issue with this. They were housed in blue or green cases ( no mention of the burgundy ones of which I have 4) the blue ones were Cupro-nickel . The green ones were silver. So what were the burgundy ones?

I just emailed them and asked. No harm in trying the direct route. They normally answer enquiries within 5 days. But seeing as it isn't a purchase question they might not answer at all lol

Only thing with the RM they are worse than Hogwarts for revealing secrets

Could of been to exhibit the different finishes perhaps one with both dies polished and one with only 1 die polished? Would go a long way to explain the non cameo crowns and the cameo ones?

There must be a reason why they are in different colour cases. Common sense prevailing if they were all the same only 1 colour case would of been made? Also I was of the understanding that despite the tag of proof likes the 1951 Crowns were all proofs?

Hi Irene there is a rare variety for 1976 the rare version being reverse C Probably the easiest way to spot the difference is the number 1 on the reverse on reverse C it is much closer to the border beads also the 1 itself is larger . I think there is a grammatical error as the picture in the book says rev C has larger serifs on the N's of PENNY and Longer legs. but the opening description for reverse C Which is found on the 1972 proof issue describes it completely the opposite. So I am kind of confused how to work out which is which. I would use the 1 being closer to the border beads as an obvious starting point. Hope it helps. Perhaps David could chime in on this as he wrote the book

My eye sight or did they drop the ball with this 1? Is that a weakly struck E below the bust? If so how on earth did they miss it?

British Silver Coins Since 1816 (Hardcover) take up mrb's suggestion £18 is as cheap as chips

For all things silver 19th century one of the bibles for silver coins 1816-1980 all silver and cupro issues. But best for 1816-1901. A must have book IMO and it isn't expensive. I remember a guy I met at a coin auction he must of been 508 years old well in knowledge years at least lol I said to him " what would you recommend as a first purchase" ? He half looked up at me with his eyes angled behind a pair of milk bottle thick bifocals and said "Son the first £200 purchase you should spend your hard earned on is books. Without them you will be in a dingy lost at sea" At first I thought silly old duffer what's he on about but after my first few purchases were disasters I realised why he said that. Being armed with as much knowledge as possible in the field of choice really is 50% of the battle the other 50% is a slow learning curve. I am not a big reader in fact I hate books with a passion . Probably because my mind works at breakneck speed and I find it difficult to concentrate but my memory recall is above normal not to the extent of once read never forgotten . I'll remember it all but just not in the correct order. there is a name for it probably (Rain main syndrome) . It's kind of like seeing something you liked or wanted to buy somewhere but you never made the purchase then 10 years on you see something similar. the memory comes to the fore like I had just seen it again for the first time. Sadly for me it isn't a perfect science and something are similar but are not the match I first thought. But I would be lost without the books.

Is this The 1977 V.I.P Proof?

Davies 766 4B 1879 -41 trefoils - NDN £470 Davies 767 3B 1879-48 trefoils - NDN £130 Davies 768 3B 1879-48 trefoils NDN £190 (reads britt) Davies 769 5B 1879-38 trefoils NDN £120 Obviously prices aren't current but seems of the 4 types it is the 2nd scarcest

Been looking for this Reverse B for ages. I was almost becoming to believe it was a myth lol Not a world beater but Seeing as the ones that have surfaced are normally no better than Fine . At least it is above average.