Michael-Roo

Many thanks. When you say 'struck at a specific point in time' are you aware of 1717 proofs being struck from existing dies some years later? Also, could it be one or more test strikes of the BMC 771 dies where made in copper before producing the run of silver specimens?

Thanks Rob. Your input will be greatly appreciated as I've not been able to find any record of this one myself.

As he is the resident halfpenny expert this is probably one for Rob. There's a 1717 copper proof halfpenny I've owned for some years which has an inverted reverse. Other copper examples which I've been able to find online all have an upright reverse and do not die match with my coin. The only perfect die match I can find with an inverted reverse is BMC 771 but all those I've found are in silver only. Does anyone know of others matching BMC 771 struck in copper? Thank you.

Peter, I don't disagree but, if Scott wants to see it, there it is FOC. Speaking of tea: A bunch of us were at the Little Tea House in Parkgate this afternoon for chapter the first of my wife's birthday. A no holds barred traditional tea blow out which Mapp and Lucia's Diva could only dream of providing. My being suitably prepared, that Liverpool bloke who wanted to swap some Rizla for a cab ride would have been mightily impressed on seeing how much I was able to shovel down. Oh, and their Rose Earle Grey loose leaf is the biz.

Scott, you can read the book online. http://www.treasurerealm.com/coinpapers/books/Montagu-Copper-Tin-and-Bronze-Coinage-of-England-1893/Montagu-1893.html

I see you've put it for auction on ebay with an opening price of £100 (same photos). That was fast work if you only found it today and are unsure of its value. I doubt you'll get what you're asking, but you never know. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/1863-Shilling-Rare-Date-/182432707511?hash=item2a79d633b7:g:BkcAAOSwLEtYh4er

Certainly a scarce date. Worth about £60-£80 in this condition?

'In the town, where I was born, lived a ma-ha-han, who sailed to sea….' etc. etc.

I see the vendor has now involved himself in a spat with other members on Coin Community Forum over their assessment of his 1888 crown. They're all wrong, he's right. Oh, and he's now upgraded his opinion of this 'beautifully lustred, liquid silver (????)' stunner to FDC!!!!! What a knob.

I always did find American gradings confusing, but now I think I'm beginning to get the hang of it. So, let's see: ah yes, got it, their 'Choice Uncirculated' is our 'Fine'.

… Somehow, I don't see it catching on……. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaoND3pcQ3I&feature=youtu.be

London Coins have only handled two, low grade, examples. http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=Shilling+1820&category=9&searchtype=1

Here's an 1820 shilling I have for comparison. These are rarer than the price guides suggest.

Indeed. Damage aside, minor wear to the hair detail is obvious in the photo.

Obverse too. Ed's neck, back and below the beard, and the field to the right of his eye.

Thank you

Maybe its a strand of fibre?

If photoshopped out that would be a big 'no-no'.

Another I have (though a lower grade than the first coin). Type 4 in your illustration of seen varieties?

Same coin….

Saw that in the other thread too. Yes, much better than your 1909, particularly breastplate detail etc. One thing though: give your scanner a wipe!

It might be worth your while comparing this with Paulus's coin (above). The hair detail looks to be worn away on your coin, though I suppose it may be that it was struck from a knackered die?

That looks right to me too. many thanks. Its a 5 over 3 / normal obverse.

A lighter image of same...

Forgive me for resurrecting an ancient post but, Rob, could you id which 5/3 this is please? many thanks.