Michael-Roo

Perverse amusement is all well and good but I really must spend less of my spare time looking at these pitiful listings and use it more constructively. All from the same seller. Expert grader…... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jersey-1-12-Shilling-1877-coin-E-F-/292140506224?hash=item4404ee5c70:g:03cAAOSw44BYldDh http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GB-King-William-IV-1836-Half-Crown-Coin-/292143100010?hash=item440515f06a:g:rswAAOSwAANY6MV1 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1834-Gulielmus-One-Penny-Coin-United-Kingdom-/292138563042?hash=item4404d0b5e2:g:BTYAAOSwShJXLmbw http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1889-QUEEN-VICTORIA-JUBILEE-HEAD-SILVER-CROWN-COIN-/292155467528?hash=item4405d2a708:g:NbAAAOSwcUBYL0mK http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/United-Kingdom-George-III-One-Penny-1797-coin-/292139569831?hash=item4404e012a7:g:7fQAAOSw~AVYvH6h http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Great-Britain-1758-Sixpence-George-II-coin-/292159282094?hash=item44060cdbae:g:wOAAAOSw3YNXbqAu

"The rest of his wares look like £1 land trinkets." Good one Stu.

I'm pleased to hear you like too C. I've always been a big fan of the early milled coppers. Here's another 1699 also recently bought. This may or may not be the 'no stop after Gvlielmvs' variety, I can't say for sure. Either way, original planchet flaw aside, its in much better condition than is usually seen, particularly the reverse which is often poorly detailed even on decent examples. The slight double striking is fun too.

One of my recently acquired 1699s has what appears to be an overstruck T in Britannia. I'm including a photo of the isolated T next to that of Tertivs for comparison.

Yes, couldn't possibly have been found metal detecting unless someone dropped it into soft mud last week, so this would mean either his 'friend' is lying to him, and has had him list it on his behalf knowing it to be fake, or the seller himself knows it is a fake. Let's not forget also, no explanation has been given for the damage to the coin which, conveniently, appears precisely where the word 'copy' had been stamped by the manufacturer.

Here you are Declan, the smoking gun... http://dorchesters.com/charles-i-shilling

My thoughts exactly. Either this has been sold on as it is by someone who genuinely didn't know or the 'WRL' has been deliberately removed in an attempt to deceive.

Hi Declan, I have seven or eight in various grades and none of them have surfaces which look like this one. I'm no hammered expert but my instincts are to think its shouting 'I'm a fake, and I don't give a damn who knows it!'. The colour is very reminiscent of the WRL replicas which often appear on ebay. Those usually have 'WRL' stamped onto them somewhere so I'm concerned about that (conveniently?) rubbed area at 5 o'clock on the reverse. I also think your asking in the first place suggests your own instincts are telling you this one isn't right. As I say, these are just my initial feelings, I'm sure one of the resident hammered coins experts will be able to confirm one way or the other very soon.

I was thinking VF+, but if Rob says VF then that's good enough for me. I see you've taken these photos from Ebay where it is graded aEF and comes with an asking price of £1700.

Although I see his shiny one ounce gold bar already has eight bids and has reached £10.50

Not my field, but there are plenty of people on here who will be happy to suggest best places to buy ancient coins.

They are 'dating back to 1971' though. Surely, anything so old MUST be rare…..

How about this for a bargain….. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Rare-British-One-pence-New-Penny-Coins-1971/263008262638?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D43782%26meid%3D1fc83ff7409e4ca88cce2b130481d022%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D162542721837

Sound advice Stu. Copies abound, so definitely worth sticking with reputable dealers.

Actually, looking again at the detail on the shield etc, it would probably appear better than VF 'in the hand'.

The reverse is better than the obverse. Overall, VF?

I had added this question and photos to the end of Jimmy Mercia's post about his London silver penny, but I think I should really have posted it here: "I have about a dozen of these but am useless at attributing to specific classes, so the above link will make for very interesting reading. In the meantime, can anyone tell me about this one which appears to have extra pellets in one of the reverse quarters? Thanks."

I have about a dozen of these but am useless at attributing to specific classes, so the above link will make for very interesting reading. In the meantime, can anyone tell me about this one which appears to have extra pellets in one of the reverse quarters? Thanks.

That's great. Thank you. I would think those which feature both William and Mary would then most likely date 1689. I can see the argument for those which show either W or M alone being coined to commemorate Mary's death or the beginning of William's reign, but it seems odd that none of the reverse designs/inscriptions hint at this. And why, I wonder, so many different reverse designs? Someone was busy! I'm not 100% certain, but the William bust on some of the farthings looks as though it may be the same punch used for the official low denomination silver. Roettier must definitely be in the frame. An extracurricular pocket money enterprise?

Hi Rob, Do you know who (and where) produced the Montagu farthing and halfpenny size medalets of 1689? You may remember I have half a dozen or so of these and, although I know they are not patterns as sometimes described, it is interesting to note the William III bust on some looks to be the same die as was used for circulating coinage.

Hi Will, Ensure they're less than 500kb.

The Predecimal Liverpool diaspora society welcomes another esteemed member!

I've taken in enough homeless kittens in my time to more than make up for the lucky find I made as a 10yr old.

Wow, 1980s? Pretty impressive Mike. In 1968-71, when I was a kid, I would often see pre 1947, and sometimes pre 1920, silver in my parents' change but, weighing up face value against a pocket money advance i'd always let them go and stick to the coppers. Buns turned up often. Veiled head and Eddies, every day. 1912 H was common but I remember being chuffed (I was10 or 11 years old remember!) when I found a 1919 KN (GF) which I still have. There's a 1949 threepenny bit I have too, no great shakes grade wise but very precious to me. I was ten years old, I, being the kid in my class with the most trustworthy face (LOL) was given charge of a small collection of money, for whatever reason I don't remember, and was responsible for taking to the post office to pay into the class account, just writing that makes me realise we're talking here about a time long gone. Anyway, on my walk to the PO I saw in the small collection of coins was included a 1949 3d. I ran home, swapped it for another 3d from my pocket money stash, then went on to the PO. No one ever knew (until today!). Honest as the day is long y'honour…….

That sounds great. I wish it had been there when my wife worked in the department. UKStu, Peckris, and me are all originally from Liverpool. You too?