No problem, we all do it. You're the 'go to' bloke Rob. Can you tell me: how rare is the R over O obverse? Never seen one, though Nick found one in a DNW search in 1995. There is a thread somewhere because I asked the question a while ago. It would be interesting to see what this actually is in hand because I have a 1773 with OR over O - i.e. the underlying O was cut too far clockwise and then corrected. That's very interesting. Its listed in Spink with a premium which would suggest its not that big a deal but, like you, I've not seen one apart from my own. We were in Holland last week so the coin collection, Les Paul, cats (just joking) etc. went into the loft before we left. I'll get them down tomorrow and take a photo. The cats can stay. Ah, the silence…….