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Both sets of pictures are very good and can enable the viewer to determine the grade of the coin which is important. Less easy to know is the extent of the lustre on the coin but that will always tend to vary with the light that was used when the photo was taken , whether natural or artificial. Just as the light used when viewing the coin in the hand will affect the extent of lustre. It all depends on whether the picture is an aid to selling the coin or to capture the image for the owner's information and pleasure. Picture taken seconds apart will vary depending on light fluctuation. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. R

They definitely mean the colon after F:D that's missing - it's a genuinely rare variety (less than 10 known I reckon) but, as Rob says, it's not nice.

Really interesting - any idea of what that krugerrand would be worth Dave ? I assume that whoever fakes these things will only fake something with a reasonably high value ?

Spink Numismatic Circular - May 2010 Page 74/75 R

If Vicky has got more coins like this and the 1926 ME he showed recently, he should get them all up on a website for our delectation and envy !!! R

Thanks Mark, much appreciated and thanks for the Geo V articles - really interesting and valuable R

Yes it is - it has the true 1927 reverse (184 teeth)

Might be of interest ?????????????????? It's orgasmic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm looking forward to the next article regarding the 2 "rogue" pennies (1922 and 1926) with M.E. obverse and 1927 reverse. However, I notice that there is no mention of the 3rd rogue penny (1926) with M.E. obverse and pattern or hybrid reverse that has been discussed on these forums. It would be a shame if this were not discussed or even explained. Richard

No - O of OMN is a bit further away from the colon after BRITT on F164A.

For interested Penny collectors, I have included details of the new obverse along with many other rare pennies, on a new page on my website, entitled "Varieties That I Don't Have" (but fiercely covet !!!!!) Richard

Yes, it's clearly not a die 3 penny - the "3" is far too small. I see that it's already up to £45 !!!!!!! Genuine example below

I echo the thoughts that it isn't an open 3 - the top is far too curved. If the bottom proves to be open, we have a new kind of 3 !!

OOOOps, sorry, you did include 2+B !!

I have just checked the 4 pictures of the "new" F10 that I have and all 4 have the variety of reverse D with the curved rock line to the shield (D*). Regarding your die combinations above, don't forget 2+B (F9 mule). Richard

There's one for sale at the next London Coins auction

It works now !!!!! I haven't done anything different - most peculiar.

The 1862/, 8/6, also looks like it is a 1862/1....... http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchterm=1862+penny&searchtype=1&page=Catalogue I looked at that 8/6 coin and couldn't see the overstrike on it at all. It just looks like a normal date to me. The picture of the same coin in the previous catalogue was better and traces of the 6 could be seen more easily. The 6 never shows up well in photographs (other than in UNC specimens) but the 2 is always wide in this variety, as per the LCA coin.

The 1862/, 8/6, also looks like it is a 1862/1....... http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchterm=1862+penny&searchtype=1&page=Catalogue Bob, when I click on your facebook link I get a message that I'm not part of the audience for that page - any suggestions ?

That F9 has an interesting T over T in BRITT too.

I think we are talking worn die on these Thanks for your response and reference to earlier interesting posts on similar. I'm having a bit of a ponder (may take some time!). I've checked my own 1898 pennies and my standard F149 has a poorly defined sea level whereas my 1898 with different 8's has a very sharply defined sea level. I wonder if a wearing die caused someone to update another die to improve this aspect and accidentally put the "wrong 8" in the date field ?

Mine appears to have straight bottomed E and normal die axis Terry, I've just checked that penny and it does seem to have the 15 degree axis rotation like you describe. I don't know whether to add that to the description. I'm not sure whether it makes it more interesting. Richard

Take Care !!! - yesterday I started to install Serif and it installed something called From Doc to PDF which hijacked my browser and I've spent today trying to get rid of it (not totally successfully yet !) with anti-malware software. Not sure what I did wrong but if you're thinking of using this BE CAREFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many of my own coins were bought at CCA, particularly when Laurie was alive, but I haven't been there for quite a while now.

Well done, Jerry.