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Think we now need a Gouby volume II for pennies 1902 to 1970, or as suggested elsewhere a Wiki to list all these varieties David

Happy for anything I've posted to be used David

The Australians are even worse when it comes to flaws in their pennies A lot of the confusion caused by the terms wide and narrow Most Bun penny dies have a "wide", or I would prefer a "large" date Some of the dies used in 1874,1874H, 1875, 1976H, 1877 & 1879 have the "narrow" or "small" date. These are distinct dies and have other design differences to the large date types The confusion arises with variable date spacing within each of the types, which then get described as wide and narrow dates David

Don't forget Liverpool was once the major port of the Empire. David

Ditto, decimals never rocked my boat. The coin collection I made as a youngster languished for 45 years in old albums and coffee jars. Only starting collecting again when I discovered ebay about 6 years ago David

I think it is most likely from one of the Indian Princely states. Script is similar to these Smaller 3 are from Baroda, the larger from Indore. But it could be from elsewhere in the sub continent, there are a lot of very similar designs, and this coin is too far gone to pin it down further And yes late 19th early 20th century David

I took a bus to work (2 stops and I normally walked) just so I could get some decimal change David

This question has come up before,in relation to both buyers and sellers, and IIRC we never arrived at a definitive conclusion. We did mention some sellers who we'd recommend as being reliable and honest, but went no further than that. It might be worth you asking Chris for his opinion on the matter. Obviously it would have to be "members only". Libel laws apply even in a closed group, and you have no way of knowing the person concerned or his friend has not joined this forum, and I think Chris would be liable as the publisher. So I would advise all to stay well clear of such action, even though I'm sympathetic to the need. David

It's from Guernsey - the Channel Islands and the Isle of Mann have their own coins David

nice! David

Don't think any amount of olive oil can rescue that one, Popeye maybe David

and then there's a village in Austria..... 4 kilometers from the German border. population 106 see wikipedia entry

Look like Chines cash to me, although they could be Japanes or Korean You video is too indistinct to identify them, can you post either still photos, or put them on your scaaner

Somebody got burned! Ooouch! Where's his REV picture No REV picture. I suspect that he pulled a pic off the internet to post on ebay and the actuall coin is a worn 1873 I checked this one to see what feedback said, "item not avaiable", so I assume buyer was well pissed!

Item Removed.... I WISH I had that ability... LOL.... I meant that I had looked to see what the listing was, and I got a message that the item was removed..... how did you do that? There were 4 seperate listings of "genuine" undated 20p Seller had a no return policy as he said coins came "direct from the factory" !!!

Very odd wording on this listing undated 20P Fakes???? David

Definitely a standard (closed) 3

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Even more of a disaster of a die pair than I first thought, here's the E of ONE This one definitely not in Gouby

Agree about the E, not 100% sure about the dot, may be crud but it looks identical to the Bamford one illustrated in Gouby Maybe a soak in olive oil is called for If the hole wasn't there, possibly the errors would have been spotted and the coin out of my price range And then those of us who collect varieties can't be too picky on grade The triple F shouted even in the seller's poor picture, but the Rev was a bonus I only noticed when I scanned it

I've had similar thoughts, none of of Gouby X I've seen seem to have the very raised rim, but then none were better than Fine Given the unconfirmed reports of "hollow neck" 1912s maybe we should all look at tooth alignment of our 1912 and 1913 in our junk boxes duplicates David

It's not often I get excited by a penny with a hole in, but what do folk here make of this one ??? :- Obverse is similar to Gouby 1860 Jd - F in FD triple struck, but differing in that the last T of BRITT has lost it's horizontal bar Reverse has a raised dot in between E and N in PENNY which looks identical to Gouby's 1860 Le (Freeman 13) A definite Friday afternoon job £12.84 plus £2pp David

Seconded! and glad to have been of help. Can we get all this info to Spink? May get it listed in future editions David

Broken Y in PENNY too by the look of it