The Australians are even worse when it comes to flaws in their pennies A lot of the confusion caused by the terms wide and narrow Most Bun penny dies have a "wide", or I would prefer a "large" date Some of the dies used in 1874,1874H, 1875, 1976H, 1877 & 1879 have the "narrow" or "small" date. These are distinct dies and have other design differences to the large date types The confusion arises with variable date spacing within each of the types, which then get described as wide and narrow dates David