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Agreed! but also the whole area beneath the lighthouse is also weak, the appears to be no L in LCW My Freeman 6 is in lousy condition but a much better strike also is it my imagination, or is a there slight difference in the position of Britannia's thumb relative to St Georges cross?? David

Speak for yourself! I'm stlll digesting my lunchtime goose.......... ..............and no Dear, I'm not ready for some tea

I've got both Freeman and Gouby, but I still haven't got my head round all the penny dies for 1860 to 1862 David They are not too difficult when you see good pictures of EF coins, it's when all you have are worn specimens that are in the price range most of us can afford David

Yes Freeman 6, Gouby 1860E Gouby has £500 in AU75

I've got both Freeman and Gouby, but I still haven't got my head round all the penny dies for 1860 to 1862 David

I can't see anything on either the Aldi or Lidl websites, did find this though on Amazon is this the same one? David

Seasons' greetings to all forum members old and new Virtual drinks all round :rolleyes: David

Nice! Never seen one like this, probably a clogged die I have a similar French 5c dated (1)900 David

agree the obverse is horrid, and at £450 too rich for my budget; so will have to stick to the one I have, GF

That's going a bit far Peter! A genuine VF 18KN should fetch £25 or so - there must be MANY collectors who want "above average" but can't afford EF or higher, and would cheerfully pay that. And I'd say the VF 1893 should at least be a few quid too. I think you're being too pessimistic. If you're not, then I will happily pay 99p to buy a GVF 1918KN off you I'm still looking for a half decent 1919H

You'd need to be a cockney to understand that one. Got you Threepenny bits, gits, right? Bristols?

Define "recognised"! 1887 and I have exchanged views, pictures, and expertise (his more than mine), and the upshot is that it should appear in an upcoming book he hopes to write on the subject. We both agree that it is a previously unknown variety. However,getting other people interested is a MAJOR task. When you consider some members of this forum have orgasms over a nearly-disappeared half colon, you would think there would be more enthusiasm really. It only goes to prove the old adage "MY variety is interesting and endlessly fascinating. Yours? Pah." I think this true in all areas of collecting. The way to succeed is to collect something no one else does; write the standard work, then make a bundle selling you collection Before Peck and Freeman. very few people collected copper and bronze. The little book by ?Harris reprinted by Spink "European Copper Coins" recommmends them as cheap items for children to collect. The Peck & Freeman varieties ar here to stay, only time will tell whether the Gouby classification gains credence David

That's how the bankers always end up on top!

Countdown wasn't working earlier, not tried it since

Yes got most of those, there are also a lot of non-Commonwealth penny sized bronze coins worldwide, some very hard to find at reasonable prices, Keeps me out of mischief though

Don't ever remember see a New Zealand panny in circulation, I only have a few - Damn! Ebay search needed S Africa reared it's head though - they're nice pennies well struck, not like the horrid Aussie roos

Happy Birthday! ;):PB)

No colon dots after F:D. Peck 1623a, Gouby 1860 Type T. Took me ages to realise though. And for completion Satin 19, Not listed by Freeman Gouby has it at R9 4 known (now 5!) Fair £100, Fine £250, VF £600, EF £1000+ David

Yes I know the problem. As a kid, I nagged folk to save their bun pennies from change; a side effect living in the then thriving port of Liverpool, I got given a lot of foreign pennies too - they all need completing Australian pennies probably won't ever be completed, but Ireland penny and Argentine 2c done, but still 4 missing from the complete run of French bronze 10c, and ..................... david

If you bid 25 Euros it did not get through as I bid €22 and the next bid was €253!!!! I ony spotted it at 1min to go, and i attemped a snipe €25 to bid at 3 secs to go, maybe I was too late or it went in after than the €253. Was gobsmacked when it finished

Wow! Hows that for last minute bidding! My €25 snipe didn't stand an earthly 1860 with missing colonafter F:D

Spot on! I completed the date set of bronze pennies 40 years ago, culled from circulation and mainly in lousy condition. Upgrading and looking for varieties within the date series keeps me interested, and yes, I know damn well I'm never going to complete Freeman, let alone Gouby David

Nah! The real challenge now is to get all the Gouby variants within each Freeman number David

Probably true, and being in possession of each of the business types, I would say that these are the kind of variety that cure my insomnia! The differences are minute and consist of nothing more than letters pointing to teeth or gaps and not much else. I'm sorry if it's anybody's 'thing' but if all varieties were like this I'd collect bottle tops. Agreed1, I have all three types in decent grade, but differences are minor and very uninteresting. The 99+ variations of ship halfpennies leave me cold too, not really enthused by anything post george V

It's a recognised variety for those of us who like such things, very rare, a specimen (graded as Fine and said to be finest known) sold for £700 here James Workman sale My example cost 45p on Ebay, which is why it's worth looking hard at the crap for certain dates David Why is the finest known only F?...nice one on the 45p coin....I've bought a few coins of which I was quite smug with...and even a few off dealers lists...a 1849 farthing in GVf for £6 ...he wasn't a farthing buff....I will have to through my sack full of pennies to see if there anything rare. Presumably cos no one has yet found a higher grade example Those of us that collect varieties have to put up with whatever grades we can get. Davuid