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Didn't work for me either Can you not upload the pdf her as a attatchment?

Fascinating article! thank you

Gouby's book on pennies 1860-1869 states that Heaton did produce lots of the pennies 1860-3 but no "H" on these. He states that the 1863 with die numerals were probably Royal Mint strikings

I do not want to know about 1911 pennies. I don't. I don't want to have to look. I don't you know I don't don't don't... Relax! There's four 1913, two or three 1915 and 1916, two 1920, 1921, 1922, and at least four 1926 apparently. I should major on the 1927 - 1936 series - the only date with varieties you need to worry about is 1933 Until someone finds the hollow neck, depressed ear 1923KN muled with the 1927 reverse! <fx> ducks David

Not so Scott, The portraits were essentially the same but the legends differ AUSTRALIA 1953 ELIZABETH II . DEI . GRATIA . REGINA + no pennies in 1954 1955 - 64 ELIZABETH II . DEI . GRATIA . REGINA . F:D: + The Royal Mint last struck their pennies in 1915, All Lizzie pennies were struck in one of the Australian mints I don't know where the dies were made NEW ZEALAND 1953 - 65 QUEEN . ELIZABETH . THE . SECOND + ? Royal Mint SOUTH AFRICA 1953 - 60 ELIZABETH II REGINA ? struck in S.Africa I don't think BRITT OMN was ever used on any colonial coins, (but I'm not sure about denominations other than pennies) David

In the days of collecting pennies from circulation, I could spot an ME a mile off..... totally different expression, sadly they almost always turned out to be 1927 when turned over David

I'm not suggesting that Gouby X exists in 1912 However there are two "hollow" neck shilling dies for 1911 plus the "round neck" I don't know whether there is a third die type for 1911/2 pennies , if there is, then the difference is minimal. But I would suggest that these slight neck hollowings (real or artifactual) are what was observed by Freeman, and that he never saw the Gouby X obverse

Maybe he went to China for his last holiday!

Interested to see this listing of 8 1912H pennies, definitely a hint of "hollowness" in the two top left Could this be where the confusion arises re the reported hollow necks for 1912? None look to have border teeth prominent enough for Gouby X Are there two dies here with Gouby X being a 3rd variant in 1911. or can we put this down to strike quality?

reasonable P&P Not!

All 1876 pennies were produced by the Heaton mint so all have an 'H' below the date. If you have an 1876 without the H, you might like to post a picture. Most likely it has simply worn off or been removed. Like you, I thought that the 1876 was H only, but according to Chris Perkins et al, there is an 1876 no H ~ link here I'd certainly never heard of one before, and it is a total surprise to me. I only discovered it whilst looking for the respective values of wide and narrow date 1876H's. The source is "Bamford" 2006. A picture of that coin is in Gouby's book, but he states that Bamford thought it to be filled H rather than a London mintage

That's the trouble with rarity tables, in Freeman's 1970 book he has changed it to R9, probably as more had been discovered once folk knew what to look for. We still don't know how rare the Gouby X 1911 is for possibly the same reason

I think there is a lot of truth in this. Back in the 60s we didn't have scanners or digital cameras to help us. just eyeballing worn coins from circulation I find the whole saga of George V pennies interesting, and the various attempts to eliminate ghosting, none of which were successful until the small head was introduced. Was ghosting a problem on other denominations? Why didn't they try the Imperial portrait they used for Australia, South Africa & Jersey?

Freeman gives the 1897 high tide as a newly discovered variety in his 1964 Victorian Bronze Penny He found 26 out of 4297 1897s (ranking them as R14) David

CGB in France produce an excellent regular e-magazine Le Bulletin Numismatique , free once you've registered I manage to make sense of most of it (schoolboy French and Google translator) Good mix, of ancients up to current Euro issues. and the place where newly discovered varieties in French coins are listed. Banknotes also covered Has the introduction of the Euro stimulated more interest abroad, in the same way decimalisation did here? Anyone know what the situation is elsewhere in Europe? David

Freeman's 1st book (1964) with numbers he collected only covers Victorian pennies. Not aware he ever published actual counts of any pennies post 1901 David

Gordon Bennett !!! ~ for that price I'd want a die number under the date Yes, but it could the narrow or open cat hair

My 94 yr old mum is demented poor love, and prior to going into Care, she tried to pay a bill with premium bonds. So yes, I can imagine such a scenario with some poor old dear out shopping David

yes Egypt 1866, if diameter is about 30mm it is a 10 para coin (not 5) $2 in Fine, $3.50 in VF, so sorry you are not going to retire on this one David

Next time you put a pair of pants in the washing machine, put some nice shiny bronze coins from change or 1967 pennies in the pockets first. Go to US Ebay and make your fortune David

Forget BU rainbow toning is the way to go! David

Not checked in the books, but looks like Egypt (then part of the Ottoman Empire) 5 para copper coin, 1860s David

I've always thought he had an unfortunate name... Probably why, when I was at school, he was called Canute

Bored mint worker? 1974 penny Odd colour

George V pennies seem to be going that way of late!!!! David