Geordie582

And a "Power Seller" too!

I agree. We may have a good laugh from ebay, (and I get the odd bargain!) BUT the people who get fleeced will be starter or junior collectors and this does no good to the hobby.

I don't know about anything else, but he/she desperately needs to see an optician!

We've had a discussion about this sort of thing, somewhere on the forum, about this - Could be another over-enthusiastic Victorian collector. I doubt it would be the replica company WRL, as there would be little call for them

Seems someone doesn't agree with you! £430 - I hope it is genuine!

I am always puzzled by these ridiculous adverts. What do they get out of it? (Unless it's some 5 year old on dads computer)

Seems an awful lot of trouble to go to just for 'toy money'?

I can't answer that! but I do know that hammered pennies that have holes in them(for suspension not the deface kind) are usually for wearing as touch pieces against the malady of Scrofula (the King's disease) Defacing was common to readily identify esterlings that may be of inferior metal (Below:- the first as touch peice, the second defaced.)

The first is an obvious break, but the second doesnt fit any of the criterion. Break or cut?

Hm! Another coin or another scale.................No contest. I'll stick with this one!

I think the poll result says it all! This is one Americanism we can do without!

My digital scale is only accurate to 0.1 grams so is no great shakes to detect that small a discrepency.

I don't think it's a case of breaking, as the repeat of the same amount removed, but in different places around the coins, would seem to show deliberate intention. Different areas show different shapes to the cut, semi-circles, 'V' cuts, square cuts, etc. There are notes of testing coins in a number of publications and I have no problem with the need to prove a coin is not a base metal 'silvered' forgery, but it's the acceptance of the coin in later transactions that bothers me!

It has puzzled me for some time that while you find many hammered pennies with 'proof' or 'test' cuts made during their circulation, it appears that the mutilated penny was, seemingly, still acceptable even though the coin was worth less than its face value! Anyone any thoughts?

I'm with you, but the keeness to aquire is not backed by the necessary modern coinage!

Cosidering the quantity of facts in the content, a few "escapees" are inevitable!

First. The book is a cracker and just what we need, especially to point out to beginners. But--- I don't suppose you want to hear this! Here are a couple of errors for any reprint! P46 6 lines from the bottom. I don't think Richard II was brother of John! P90 bottom picture is a repeat of the left Durham coin above. P105 I'm sure the first pictured Sovereign Penny is Henry VII ( especially according to the statement of legend above it!) Tell me off if this has all been pointed out before!!! Yes! You can tell I've read it already!

Wouldn't you say the surface wear was more than 'bag wear'? I wouldn't have said FDC

As I sold my first collection to buy my first computer (yes, a Sinclair!), my current collection is a poor reflection. I was posted to Malta in the 60's when they were still circulating Victoria and subsiquent coins. The farmers also did not trust banks, so often paid for purchases in hoarded silver, a lot in EF condition. Paradise! I also had some excellent hammered, bought at very low prices. Ah! Well! the folly of youth made me want to join the new computer population more than have a good collection. I still yearn for the helmet Canute I sold! I think I paid £5 for it and it was EF.

In that state, only a couple of pound, if you're lucky! Try e-bay, you never know!

I'm 76. Where does that leave me in "Geek-hood"?

It appears to be an Edward I penny Class 10cf3 of London. That's as far as I can tell from your picture. "New Coinage" with solid long cross reverse. A fuller coin would make the class alocation easier!! Edward reigned from 1272-1307. Your coin dates from 1279.

Perhaps the only consistant thing would be the relative cost of war?

You would be pushed! Potatoes didn't appear until the 16th century!