Geordie582

Changed my mind! I have e-mailed you. Couldn't attach the file I wanted to send, using PM.

Found it. I'll PM you.

I've got it but I'll only be getting another two issues as I'm not renewing either. It jut doesn't seem relevant to my interests. What did you want to know? The Coin Price Guide is for Half Crowns.

I think I should bow out of this discussion as I am a hammered collector and will always dispute so called graders in that field (unless I happen to agree, of course!) It's the milled clan that can take a microscope to a coin to grade it. It just doesn't apply to Hammered.

My stance is, Who examines the graders? I know of 'expert' deal;ers whos opinion I value, sometimes, and those who I think are living in cloud cuckoo land. There are none who's opinion I'd stake my life (and my money ) on

Should we congratulate or commiserate?

Yes! There are endless stories and puzzles - if you look!

I am interested in such things as, Why was the currency so unreliable that people cut 'test pieces' from thier coins, as in the first example, yet aparently still accepted the coins despite having lost some of their silver? Why were coins, such as the second example, so crudely made and so thin that they fell apart as my example. Surely totally impracticable and why was it that Henry I punished Moneyers and not Henry II, that example? This, for me, is the meat of numismatics.

My opinion is simple. I collect hammered silver and study the origin, history and developement of coinage. I am happy to have many 'poor' examples in my collection as they provide an insight to the use of the coins. An uncirculated coin is a good example of the moneyers art but has no history. Many of my Edwardian (Edward I,II,III not VII) and coins are 'cut halfpennies & farthings', real circulated currency but not exactly the sort of thing I see discussed among the slabbing community. The real difference, I believe, is that of the interest in appearance and not of where the coin has been, who is likely to have handled it, how much would it buy and what historical event changed it. Because of this, I can't understand the arguments over the minute wear. Every mark or scratch tells a story. I don't think you will ever reconcile the collector/investor with a numismatist. My opinion and will always be disputed, just like the squabbles over "grade".

I still believe the difference between slabbing and 'naked' is the difference between a numismatic collector and an investor. If you are fixated on resale value you cannot be a collector!

I had a similar experience at school when the two leggy blonds in front of me wriggled about a lot and didn't seem to notice their skirts didn't always follow their movements. Possibly why my school reports always included "must concentrate more". Believe it or not, they were twins with the surname Venus!

Can't find anything wrong at all. If there is something, then my Tech Author skills have evaporated!

Chris! I thought I'd copy the email I received from ebay, so you can make up your own mind.! With effect from March 1st, 2007, we are updating the eBay.co.uk User Agreement and Privacy Policy. The main change is that for eBay users who are resident in the European Union, the contractual relationship between those users and eBay International AG will be transferred to eBay Europe S.Ã r.l., a new eBay entity located in Luxembourg. This change reflects a change in eBay's VAT structure. To find out more about this change and how it may affect you, please see our information page. We are committed to improving your experience of using eBay.co.uk. We have therefore taken this opportunity to make further changes to the User Agreement and Privacy Policy to make sure they stay up to date. Some of the changes are based on suggestions from the community and others are necessary due to site developments and the changing legal environment in which eBay and its community operates. What is the User Agreement? The User Agreement describes your rights and responsibilities as a user of eBay.co.uk and the rules which govern your use of the site. What is the Privacy Policy? The Privacy Policy describes how we collect, store, use and disclose your personal information in connection with the provision of services to you. What are the changes? Learn more about the changes to the User Agreement. Read the new User Agreement. Learn more about what was changed in the Privacy Policy. Read the new Privacy Policy. When do the changes come into effect? The revised User Agreement and Privacy Policy are valid from March 1st, 2007. Please note that if you sign up for site features between today and March 1st, 2007, and are asked to re-accept the existing User Agreement, we will not re-notify you of the changes to the User Agreement but those changes will still take effect on March 1st. --------------------------------------- If you do not want to continue using eBay under the new User Agreement, please inform us of this before March 1st. In this case we will cancel your eBay registration. Learn more. Regards, eBay International AG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This administrative email was sent from eBay International AG, based on your account at www.ebay.co.uk. Here's the link, if you want to try to follow all the ramifications. I'll warn you, I gave up early! http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/user...sions-faqs.html

That's because we now have Euro-ebay!

I had an email from ebay saying that they were transfering all Europe transactions to Luxemborg and have changed the rules. Included is a promise to introduce a new complaints procedure. You should have had a copy of the letter, being a registered ebayer?

Penny. If you find one - its a fake!

Will the changes to E-bay's rules, coming in on 1st March, help?

If you're a serious collector of that period, you would be remiss if you didn't have examples of all the coins circulating at the time. As it was common practice to cut coins to the exact amount you wish to tender, they become legitimate, useable coins of the realm! I have more cut halfpennies and farthings from that period than full coins

I'd say Henry III probably Class Vf or g. In very good condition a good collection piece!

I certainly wouldn't take it lying down. A stern complaint at least.

Come to think of it, when I was undergoing my apprenticeship (in the RAF) I often used pennies and halfpennies , neatly drilled, as washers and 'shims' for various reasons, as did my contemporaries, - but - I don't think we can be accused of using 4.75 billion.

No doubt for drunked Victorian gentlemen who keep dropping their coins - at least they don't roll under the sofa!

Yes , but over £15 for one coin from a set that cost under £10 for both coins!!!

I don't know if it helps with valuation, but I have just bought (on ebay 'Buy It Now') both 1989 Claim and Bill of Rights in the mint folder, for £9.95 + pp. At the same time, an uncirculated Claim was bought for £15.90 on the auction site! Talk about a confused market!

I agree! I don't want to doubt the expert (Who is he?) but it looks a lot more dated than the 19th century, which is why I'm curious to know if anyone has come across other syphate coins of that era? ( I don't know if you know the history of my piece, but it was included in a batch of uncleaned Roman coins I purchased on the dreaded ebay!)