Geordie582

Finished with no bids - someone missed a bargain there - if they are short of a couple of brain cells! How about this then. "Unique because it has been officially marked for cutting into halfpennies and farthings" http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HENRY-III-UNIQUE-L-K...1QQcmdZViewItem

Welcome to the asylum! What's your interest? There's such a lot to choose from, but whatever you select, there will be someone here to help

"scottishmoney I clearly see the B, for Bristollie, the name of the city at that time, but not the crown you are referring to." At the beginning of the obverse legend - Before EDWARD - a bit worn but discernable.

I make it Edward IV light coinage Bristol mint 'B' on breast, Quatrefoils by neck. Coincraft E44D-085. Spinks 2004. mm Crown. Value - I'm not up on that, maybe another hammered nut can help??? A pure guess £30-40

I'd agree with TomGoodheart on this one (although Charles II of Anjou is also similar) and the condition does it no favours

With the state of the obverse, it's difficult, but I'd guess a crusader coin. Check out this website (click on links, bottom left) It shows various coins of very similar appearance. http://members.tripod.com/~Charlemagne64/crusader.html or--- try France on this link http://www.medievalcrusades.com/europeancoins.htm

You are very lucky! You found a dentist - a dying breed here. My wife lost a filling and we trawled the local area, 40 mile radius - with no takers, even when we wished to pay! We ended up 101 miles away in Tyneside to have the repair done! A round trip of 200 miles is not unusual in England apparently, the practice has people on its books from the London area Oh! to be in England.......

Some vague resemblence but the armour on mine seems to place it at a different time (unless like the Georges they liked to depict themselves in period clothing!) I'll keep that reference and see if I can find a better picture of the whole series - you never know!

Usually soldered! This sort of thing was common as showing off engineering skills while in an apprenticeship.

You & me both!

I think I've got a handle on the Troy pennyweight question. Up to Edward the Elder (901-925) the penny could be anything from 17 to 20 grains, but in his reign the penny was from 20 to 27 grains. So there was no consistant value. Even with Cnute the weight varied between 12 and 24 grains. The only kings to have 24 grain coins, and no other weight, were Edmund (941-946) and Eadwig (955-959). So it seems the standard of the Troy pennyweight must have been determined during either of these reigns! All this if I can rely on the accuracy of our friend Thorburn Now, however the 'Teach yourself Numismatics' states that the penny was set at 22.5 grains as this was one twohundred and fourtieth part of the Tower pound of silver (5400 grains) You pays your money and takes your choice!

Maybe we shouldn't encourage the hobby - we'll soon reach a point where we can no longer afford the coins - if we were succesful

Excellent find! The sort of thing that makes numismatics exciting. Pity more people don't see the potential of the hobby!

My gram scale is only accurate to the nearest 0.1.

I have just weighed 15 Eddy I's and 2 Eddy II's. Provincial mints seem to be paring down the content! It's a bit complicated by the clipped and 'tested' items I have but it seems generally to be that London and Bristol are the heaviest (my examples averaging out to be 20.4 grains) and clipped samples down to 12 grains! 'Whole' samples vary from 18 grains to20.4 grains. Eddy II samples (Only two) One, slightly clipped at 18 grains and one whole at 20.4 grains. Must get myself a more accurate scale. Mine measures Dwt to 0.01. I've always wondered how the exchange of coin in those reigns was sustained, considering the rampant clipping that went on??

According to Thorburn, all Edward I pennies should be 22.5 grains, and Edward II 22.25 grains. I'm still a bit puzzled though. The Troy weights derive from the 'pennyweight' (dwt) being 24 grains "as this was the weight of a silver penny". Yet none of the pennies I have seen listed were more than 22.5 grains! Oh how strange is numismatics The edits are, as usual, for slipped fingers (makes a change from slipped discs!)

They do seem to bring out the salient points, though. There is a big chapter on Scottish coins in this book! Unfortunately, it is a bit terse in the descriptions of earlier coins, and tends to lump together whole swathes of history!

No! But I'll buy all yours for that price Thought you'd like to see the interesting use of metallic print in the book to show gold & silver coins! My thanks to Rob for the tip as to where to find it!

Ordered (& paid) Yesterday, Arrived this morning. A great find, full of very interesting information. For instance, I should be able to pick up a Henry II Tealby penny in EF for around £1! Henry III in the same condition 1/- or 2/-. Hows that for an inflation measure! Great line drawings - and - Yes! weights (in troy ). For reference:- Vendor, John Turton Antiquarian Books,1/2 Cochrane Terrace, Willington, Crook, Co. Durham.

Thanks guys! I've had 4 leads by PM and have ordered a copy! It will be great to compare the stated weights with my collection!

No luck with Amazon, Library or E-bay. Maybe a member knows of a source for this book? "A guide to the coins of Great Britain & Ireland in gold, silver & copper" by Major W. Stewart Thornburn. Published 1884.

I had a PM from Chingford (he is apparently having trouble 'Replying' via Predecimal??) telling me of a book, published in 1884, listing weights of coins from Anglosaxon down. I don't suppose there's still a copy available, but I'll task our local library with the search and see what happens My interest was precisely because of clipping, and the mysterious practice of taking chunks out to 'prove fitness'. I have a number of Eddy one's pennies with various shapes cut from the rim, and wanted to know how much the coins had been 'devalued' while in circulation

If you become hooked on the Plantagenets, you must have the usual references to hand, such as, North, Wren, Coincraft, Chris's England's striking history and of course Spinks. But you will have endless problems as they don't all agree on detail! And then comes the pull between - "do I buy the book or a new coin"! Have fun

To be specific! Edward I Class 4d of Canterbury Stops before obverse & reverse legends. EDW R ANGL' DNS HYB CIVI TAS CAN TOR

And the rest!!!!!