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  1. It is a stunning coin but as you point out its obviously less than 300 years old and it is unlikely therefore to find its way to the Coroner as treasure. We have spoken in depth to the FLO but they are having to take advice from the British Museum as to the way forward. There is every chance that its not treasure under the 1996 Act. Therefore we would be faced with getting our own valuation - hence this request for any pointers. There has been so much speculation of how it got in to the river. Personnaly I think Maev Kennedys report in the Guardian (see link above) is very accurate. The Cathedral website carries a different story - hence the global attention from the world press all running with headlines like; "Mystery grips Britains religious community - just how did gold and silver belonging to a former Archbishop of Canterbury end up in the river?"
  2. Hi all, its been a while since I first started this 'coin aquisition of the week' post and its amazing how many users have contributed to it! Hopefully my latest aquisition will raise a few eyebrows. Basically its a 24ct gold coin produced in the year Showa 48 (1973) to celebrate 60th renovation of the Grand Shrine of Ise. Its part of a hoard of gold and silver religious artefact that my brother and I have recovered from the River Wear in Durham City. Some of you may well seen articles in the press recently (see link below) about the finds and how it once belonged to the 100th Archbishop of Canterbury Arthur Michael Ramsey. I belive it was presented to Ramsey when he visited Tokyo by Nikkyo Niwano (Founder and former President of the Japanese Buddhist movement Risho Kosei Kai with 6.5 million members worldwide). Clearly it is an amazing coin in stunning condition and very possibly worth a penny or two. Our dilema is a strange one as under a licenced agreement we are entitled to 50% of any value of the hoard. Simple question really though how do I go about getting a true value for this coin? Bearing in mind who gave it to who the value could increase significantly to the right collector. Does anyone have any suggestion how to get this valued? We also have several gold silver and bronze medallions from the Vatican all bearing the Lating legend 'Pont Palus VI - but thats a story for another day!!! Guardian newspaper article
  3. Update: Just had a load of my finds returned from our local Finds Liason Officer for the Portable Antiquites Scheme, he was well impressed with the above fish token describing it as a childs toy! He states its a minature toy plate bearing 2 fish from a dolls house. These are often found in and around London but very rare out side the capital he dated it as 17th Century though and suggested that it was a very good find never the less. Obviously some things aren't always what they seem - one token less in my collection
  4. Geordie, what am I supposed to be looking at with the close up image?
  5. Clive, many thanks for that, the 2 un-clipped coins are exacltly 2.3 cm - so question answered! Cheers.
  6. Hi all, I just found two Queen Mary 1553-54 hammered Groats (complete with pomegranate's and VERITAS etc). My problem is that my 2007 edition of Spinks simply lists a Half Groat (2493) as 'similar' - question is how can I distinguish a groat from a half groat?
  7. It has to be said however that the other side does look like the moon - lol! I am sure you will agree
  8. First one I have seen with a crown and a thistle on the same side!
  9. Scottish Money, I am struggling to get my head around all the different varieties of the bodle. I now have seven of them and in the main they (one way or another) all have the familiar thistle on the reverse and different variations of a crown, the CR monogram and a roman numerals I or II on the obverse. My latest bodle however has a crossed sword and sceptre (dated 1678) under the crown. In short how many varieties are there and is there a comprehensive guide available?
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    I got excited by this Victoria penny with two old heads amazingly I have since found another Victoria penny dated 1898 with two reverses - Chris put me right and its clear by this image how two coins have been machined down and glued together - cow glue if I remember correctly. Anyway the two coins are now sitting in a box labled 'pants'!!!
  11. Thanks for your quick reply Scotishmoney, so do you think its earlier than 17 th Century then?
  12. Hi all, had some really excellent finds so far this year starting in February with my hammered Henry VIII silver penny (Bishop Ruthall) some 15 x 16/17th Century lead tokens and only this morning I found my 6th Scottish Charles I 'Turner' or 'Bodle' (complete thistle! this time). Not sure about this token though which I found yesterday, its 27mm, made of lead and if you look closely has a beaded border. The two fish look like pike but could be salmon - which is of course irrelevant! The other side is blank. Question is though is it a token - has anyone seen any thing similar?
  13. I'd like to share my latest find with you all, its a Henry VIII hammered Silver penny (Sp.2331) Durham mint mm. lis with TD above the shield - Bishop Ruthall (1509 -23). The coin is only the second Durham mint coin to be found in Durham City so I have made history! I have had it analysed at the Archeology Dept at Durham Uni and its mean concentration of elements reads; Ag 97.95 Wt%, Cu 1.54 Wt%, Au 0.19 Wt% Pb 0.17 Wt% & Sb 0.15 Wt%. Apparently the dark staining can be removed but I have suggested that it should be left as it is. Being aware of the importance of the coin it is now in the safe hands of the Durham Universites Durham Palatinate Mint Coin Collection (Medieval coins from the bishop's mint in Durham), I am much happier that many will now have access to the coin rather than me showing it to a handful of visitors to my home! The legend may read 'Henry by the Grace of God King of England' - not to sure though.