Geordie582

I think Colin's site hit the nail on the head! It is just frustration waiting for an Eddy I Exeter to surface. I have a lot of foreign coins anyway and just thought a diversion might be amusing! I don't think I could collect actual coins from each era - a lot of the Protectorates just used their old style currency with nothing to show they had 'joined' the Victorian family! I'll probably look for another hammered thread to follow once my Edward I mints is complete but who says we can't follow a couple of trails? I've only got the 1901-present issue of Krause and object to paying for the earlier editon ( I could get a good hammered penny for that money!)

Thanks for that link, Colin. I think that answers my question but I didn't expect so many! All I've got to discover now is how many produced coins during their membership (if that's the right wording)!

Probably one for Chris. I'm thinking of trying for one coin for every 'member' of the British Empire. The only book I've come across is out of print and not on Amazon!!! Catalogue of British Commonwealth Coins 1660- 1971" by James Remick Anyone know where I can get at least a full list of countries and protectorates?

Welcome to the madhouse!! You'll find plenty of knowledgible people here who are always ready to advise and help. Enjoy the site

Is it only me that thinks this is the work of a modern 'coin carver' - quite a hobby, especially over the pond?

If enough investors have their fingers burned with the fakes, do you think there is a possibility of a backlash against slabs - or am I just wishing?

Some Victorian collectors wanted to make sure no-one else could use their coin, hence this example. What mentality produced this is a puzzle

Below the chin and between the two wedges of the cloak is the impression of a pearl necklace with a pendant. Faint, I know, but appears on all photographs whatever the angle of lighting used!

Lets have a discussion on this Berwick coin, just to keep things going. A close-up Do you think this is Edward II who is more likely to 'dress up' than Fierce Eddy one?

Thanks for that Scottishmoney! Now I can finalise my catalogue entry (without the question marks)

With a strong Magnifier and tilting the coin in various ways, I managed to make out CAROLUS on the 'moon' side. So Charles seems to be the issuer and a two pence the value but intriguing non the less.

While you're all on things Scottish, What is your opinion of this coin. I've been told, variously, that it is a half merk, a bawbee and a two pence. One side is almost flat. but the specs are - Diameter 14.8mm Weight 1gm.

I suppose Class 5b fits the bill more than the other classes, though the lack of pellets in the curls and the vertical sceptre are differences. Not to worry, though as there are a multitude of minor variations in all Classes and cause much argument between numismatists. Plus the fact that many moneyers placed 'secret' marks on coins, an extra pellet here or the lack of some part of the design there. It's the reason many numismatists choose English Hammered! Oh! Yes! The term 'circular' just means shaped like an 'O'

I must admit the portrait does not fit readily into catalogued coins, but I'll stick my neck out and guess it's a version of John Class 5, but most of that class have only Two curls per side. Oh! Yes! and the moneyer is ABEL ON LVND (Abel of London)

I'd tend to agree! The obverse doesn't really fit the usual neatness. Look at the initial cross - someone was definitely either cross-eyed or drunk!

No! But some hide from my Satnav

I wont be active for the next 14 days or so. Holidaying in Shropshire, chasing castles there and in Wales!

I chose FVLKE as the only listed 'F' in Coincraft. I suppose it could be an 'E' then we are in a bind! There are no moneyers listed starting with 'E'! It could be an unlisted gentleman (or is that illegal these days - I should have said 'person', though I don't think there is any evidence for femail moneyers in the 12th century) Oh! By the way. I suppose I'll have to be Richard I now we have another Richard on the site(I always did admire the man!)

I read today that there is no value imprinted on the coins. Is this true - and if so, which spotty herbert thought of that?

Given that I'm sure it is a John Class 5b, the only moneyer that fits the visible letters would be FULKE ON LVND (London). Clive might disagree! The 'S' is also unusual.

Perhaps this will help?

I did know of the other variations in the saying, Stechlin, but the one I use used to be added to the bottom of exam answers in the RAF (providing that you could rely on the humour of the examiner!!!)

Idon't think that's any where near Tom! The face is round and there is no III in the legend. And so it goes on!

It's a poser! The only difference Coincraft shows between 5A & 5B are a filled in eye!!! The text claims that 5B has a narrower face but, even with a ruler, their examples are identical. Your coin shows the 'filled-in' eye but that may be wear. However Spinks seperates the two with A having a ball tail to the R and B having a wedge tail. On this division, your coin appears to be the latter, 5B. You pays your money and takes your choice! So I doubt you will ever be absolutely certain!

The only reference I can find is for a silver coin. Obverse CORNELIA SUPERA Wife of Aemilian circa 253AD Reverse VESTA Noted byRichard Plant in his 'Roman Silver Coins' as very rare and expensive. BUT Your coin looks bronze, which makes it a copy of some sort. Probably a petrol station give-a-way!