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One year on. One of Liverpool's finest, from the concert room Dickens considered the finest in the land. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gEDLGw-9z0

Or the Frenchman who was unable to count beyond seven. Because of his huit allergy. I'll get me coat.

I heard a good joke on Classic FM a few years back. Yes I know, an unlikely source: Two friends, an Englishman and a Frenchman both own cats. The Englishman's is call "One Two Three" and the Frenchman's "Un Deux Trois". One day, they decide to race their cats against each other over the English Channel - One Two Three starting from Dover, Un Deux Trois from Calais. Whoever's cat gets across the channel first wins. Come the big day, both cats set off, a few hours later One Two Three reached France, but even by the next day there's no sign of Un Deux Trois. The Englishman phones up his friend to find out what happened. Well, Un Deux Trois cat sank.....

Yikes, strike issues as per normal on these two with the first much better in AUish IMO grade a 55/58. The second soft with wear and tone and rim ding that might merit a "details" grade but net VF35 or gVF....

The surface looks quite porous in the close-up picture. The diameter is spot on, but the thickness and weight are both under. Whatever the method of production, it's a pretty good gap-filler.

I would distinguish wear from weak striking by the loss of lustre. With regard to the second example, practically all the lustre is gone (from what I can tell from the photos) and so it is really difficult to distinguish between the two. As such, I think technical grading is not important relatively to eye appeal and the actual amount of details remaining.

A-UNC and NEF from me second is in similar grade really but less desireable due to week strike and stains

toemail... would that mean kicking him into next week?