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I acquired this coin a good while back (from Rob I think), just wondered if it seemed okay to people?

Agreed. (Or to put it in terms the RM understands, "a greed")

Yes agreed, but I think it would have to be a type collector that would have to have it. I couldn’t bring myself to buying it even for the rarity

Lighting has a huge effect on your perception. If you are accustomed to lighting from the top, then if done from the bottom, the relief detail often appears incuse until your brain has adjusted. Needless to say, that shifts the teeth half a position.

Yes - which is why I raised a topic on 1858 large & small date pennies - I was finding it hard to tell the difference when looking at a single coin in hand. You are not alone....................

I think it is down to photographic quality. Spink's images are too saturated for my taste. As for the ebay listing, I too can produce lifeless images which don't bring out the finer detail. However, the surfaces in closeup look as they did on the original as far as I recall. The listed item still has a spot of red wax on the reverse at 5pm between the V and inner circle. This is visible on the original images. The piece of crud at the edge of the rays was also present on the original. I'm happy it is the same coin.

This one made me chuckle - I love it when it takes a moment for the penny to drop:

Just seen this- apologies if it's been seen before. Her speech does have some very interesting angles on the German perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63IcW4eo4uM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303147474271?ul_noapp=true This in my view is an appalling example of coin-grading and a classic illustration of why a grading-system designed for milled coins cannot be fairly-applied to hammered coins with any wear on them, not to mention clipping! Furthermore, even applying US criteria for milled coins, AU55 should be for a coin showing full detail with light wear and a significant amount of remaining lustre, I cannot see how NGC evaluated this at such a grading. Where are they coming from?? Frank